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Britain's Biggest Football Scandal

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by LockStock, Jul 5, 2023.

  1. LockStock

    LockStock Well-Known Member

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    Essential viewing.

    Wowzers.

    I'm curious to know if the ENIC out crowd would prefer this?
     
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  2. The RDBD

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    I contend that depends on what % of :

    1. the WHL attending / merch buying supporter base are "ENIC out"
    2. those in 1 have the same mindset of our Billy
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    On a side note, I notice the UKIPpers have piped down significantly in the last week or two

    This might be related to a couple of them appearing on The Fighting Cock a couple of weeks ago and coming across as a couple of clueless berks who didn't even have a clue what they were moaning about but were moaning anyway
     
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  4. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    And what mindset would that be pal?, please feel free to elaborate and back up your idle nonsense with evidence. I`m ENIC out, not Abu Dhabi in <ok>
     
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  5. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    It's so obvious that City have spent beyond their income for years. This was after all the reason for the Oil takeover. Speaking for myself I never recognise the football achievements of City because they are purchased. We have seen the corruption of FIFA finally acknowledged, but fixed? I am not so sure. From World Cups in Qatar to financial 'bungs'. Is UEFA any different? Clearly not.
    If football really wants to clean up it's act they need to expel City from the league and shut them down. They need to revoke the decision to allow the despicable Saudi Arabia to take over Newcastle and the media needs to stop fawning over City and recognise the utter corruption it represents.
    Even the good guys in this film are claiming that a punishment of a 30 million Euro fine and a 2 year ban from Europe is the biggest sanction in history! Not true, English clubs were banned from Europe for SIX years because of the behaviour of the fans. There see you the difference money has made to the game.
    Why are they in Switzerland in the first place? Couldn't be because of the Swiss secrecy in banking could it? If Spurs were ever taken over by these kind of ****s then I would find another club or maybe even another sport.
    We see why democracy produces such poor results. You only have to look at the fans of City and Newcastle and of course Chelsea who, it seems will accept anyone running their clubs just as long as they produce some shiny cups they can brag about. Pathetic
     
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  6. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    It is quite lame how the Levyista`s like to try and bash the `ENIC out crowd`, as they like to put it, by pointing the finger at the Manchester City owners, as if something similar is the only option for Spurs, while at the same time ignoring the reality that there will be plenty of potential new owners out there for Spurs who would satisfy their sanctimonious and holier than thou ideas of who should run Tottenham Hotspur.
     
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    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Such as...?
     
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  8. LockStock

    LockStock Well-Known Member

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    Billy. Just address me directly if you have a problem with what I said.

    For the record I'm far from a Levyista, whatever that is, and I'm not bashing anybody or any crowd, just incase you're inferring either of these things is relevant to me for posting what I posted.

    I'm just curious.

    Question for you Billy if we could swap owners with any club in the premier league, which owners would you choose?
     
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    It would be perfectly reasonable to be in favour of a particular new owner you could name. It's unreasonable be against the current one while you have no idea who the new one might be.
     
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    Liverpool's seem to be reasonably grounded, which is rare for American owners in the PL as they tend to be grossly incompetent or outright asset strippers

    So, of course, there's a section of the Mouser fanbase who want them out, and the FSG Out headbangers do seem to be making some very familiar-sounding rants...
    https://rushthekop.com/2023/05/10/cult-like-mentality-fsg-crew/
    https://www.instagram.com/fsg.out
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    You have been asked here whether you would be happy,
    if it meant that domestic/IEFA trophies are won by Spurs,
    for the club owners to be the likes of:

    1. Abramovich

    2. state-sponsored autocratic regimes who own Citeh ,
    or (IMHO worse) those who own the Toon (re Khashoggi) .


    For the record, I have stated I would not accept that,
    and that you have stated that you would be happy with that.
    If I am incorrectly stating your beliefs, then now is the
    time to state so (and what they actually are) , and I
    will apologise immediately.
     
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  12. Billy The Spur

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    There are several I could pick but I`d take the Brighton owners as an example of how to run a football club, they make good decisions, employ the correct people and are moving their club forward within their obvious limitations, albeit at a lot lower level financially than Spurs. it would be interesting to see how smart owners with the correct focus like those would fair in charge of a big club. Our current mob are taking us around in circles, and making a litany of bad decisions and shoot themselves in the foot like night follows day. There are no guarantees with any owners, but ours have been a sporting failure and their time is done in my opinion.
     
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    If I have stated that then please feel free to dig up the post(s)<ok>, I may have written something along those lines before the City financial cheating became clear, but can not remember for sure, I think it is unlikely I did, but would hold my hands up if proved otherwise . I don`t want Spurs owned by financial cheats, I want them run by competent decision makers who have real sporting ambition for the football team, and a clear plan how to make it happen.
     
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    I will search (as best I can - the not606 function is not google)
    to definitively settle this, but that aside the issue for me is not
    solely about financial cheating - tis the general nature of
    the owner.

    Even if they were running Spurs entirely as a
    "business of own account" , aforementioned would not be
    acceptable to me. And once again, the fact that Joe
    Lewis made considerable wealth via "Black wednesfay"
    (which caused UK citizens to lose their homes/businesses)
    has long been an "uncomfortable truth" for me.
     
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  15. LockStock

    LockStock Well-Known Member

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    I'm curious about all of the several you'd pick. Please share.

    I agree, the Brighton owners have done a great job. Let's see how long it takes Brighton to progress from where they are now to arriving in a Champions League final.

    How do you define 'sporting failure'?

    What would you say are Levy's top 10 bad decisions?
     
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    The last concrete interest was some Iranian billionaire who no one had heard of before he cropped up
     
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    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    what a load of rubbish

    its like saying you can only consider leaving your current wife/husband/thing if you had another one lined up.... otherwise there is no logic in being against the current one

    any other reason is unreasonable logic

    rubbish
     
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  18. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Man looked like Eugene Levy too.

    Legend.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Nobody's crossed the line yet, but can everyone keep it civil, please?
    Thanks in advance. <ok>

    I haven't watched the Youtube video yet, but I assume it's about City's financials.
    Anyone who's done the briefest search of their sponsors could tell you how dodgy it is.
    The FFP rules are just to keep the chasing pack down, not touch the ultra-rich.

    You have to remember too that this is just the **** that we know about.
    Who's getting paid off the books or via roundabout, apparently legitimate methods?
    The people that run City and Newcastle and who ran and possibly still run Chelsea don't do rules.
    Who else is cashing in within the game?
     
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  20. The RDBD

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    I contend the primary reason was to keep the CL
    regulars/winners to a particular status quo.
    After that twas anti PL, which with Citeh would
    then have two Sugga Daddy FCs and a
    seemingly increasing number of CL finalists
    (thank God for Madrid eh :) ) .

    Anyway, UEFA are well beyond the point of no return.
    If you support a PL non Sugga Daddy FC. take
    great pleasure when your club prospers in the PL/CL
    at the expense of Sugga Daddy FXs.
     
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