You missed the bit where (allegedly) the Jews walked away from the area over two thousand years ago and spread out around the world but the Pallistinians stayed for two thousand years and continued their life there. Then one day the west needed somewhere to put a lot of homeless Jews so put them back where they came from two thousand years ago and basically ousted the people who had stayed there all that time and left them at the mercy/will of the new well armed people. Still, promissed land or something in an old book.
I think it's all tragic, I get no pleasure from ppl being killed and when I think about the numbers on both sides being killed like animals even if they're soldiers (conscripts) they're someone's sons, brothers, husbands, fathers. Meanwhile politicians somewhere else playing war games to see what advantages they can get out of it. That's another similarity between both conflicts I see.
****ing loved the Proclaimers, they were different and good at the same time. Think Sunshine on Leith was one of my favourits but i liked all the others too.
Some walked away. There were still jews, muslims, christians living in Palestine before Israel was created. It weren't perfect but it was a damned site better than the mess it's become. That really could've and should've been the promised land. The problem was the jews who did leave (and why not) eventually came to the realisation many European countries were just ****s. This then drove jews politically towards extremes, and zionism was born. Completely different mentality to what by and large were the hopes and aspirations of jews in Europe before then. Nowt to do with the folk in Palestine living thousands of miles away.
Pretty much nailed it but doesn't excuse the land grab. EDIT........you do know the walk away bit i refered to was 2000 years ago and the return was implimented by others who didn't know what to do with them
I was going to post something like that Britain initially protected the Palestinians and British Conscript Soldiers were murdered by Jewish terrorists/freedom fighters before Israel was eventually formed The Arab States then tried to exterminate the Jewish State which led to Israel capturing the West Bank and then moving in Jewish settlers causing the festering wound that is causing all the problems in that area The Jews, Muslims and Christian were all descended from the original Jewish tribes and as you say living in peace until the formation of the Jewish State Makes you wonder sometimes if there is any hope for mankind in the long term If we do colonise the Moon and Mars will they end up being the enemies of Earth
If you want to see the power of Russian state propaganda @brb I'd get off Twitter, which is a cesspit for information and watch longer form videos on Youtube. There are plenty of Russian journalists smuggling out videos themselves and putting them on Youtube. A fantastic one in which a journalist goes around and asks Russians "what is a Fascist?" it's telling that the average joe walking the street knows the word "fascist" but has no idea what a fascist IS, nor why it is bad. What do you think of a heterosexual? "I think it is bad and goes against, er, faith" that is the power of propaganda. A complete lack of understanding, but a hatred for something none the less. Propaganda fabricates hatred, it makes you hate something because "er, we are supposed to I suppose" even if you don't know what it is. The current Russian state is built on the philosophies of Ivan Ilyin. A fascist before fascism was cool, you don't need to take my word for it. Listen to Putin, he quotes the man all the time, he even went to the village in Switzerland he died in (under exile) and returned his corpse to Russia. There was a state funeral for him. Ivan Ilyin knew that the USSR would fall before it even got started, it was to a right winger like him an inevitability. So he wrote plenty of books about how Russia should look post USSR, these books have influenced a lot of Russian bureaucrats, Putin included, and are basically fascism with a sprinkle of religion on top. In his texts, Ivan Ilyin writes about the "Ukrainians" or "Georgians" only in quotation marks, as in the say these people aren't real. They don't exist. They are fabrications that should be dominated by Russia, should have no language, no flag, no lands and no identity. The very identity of a Ukrainian is against God itself. The fact that people who follow this man, would invade a country, shooting Grandma's in the street, is no surprise at all. In Ilyin's teachings, if one was to suggest Ukraine was a nation, they were to be tried for treason. You can see Ilyin's influence in the Russian state all over the place, once you learn more about him and how Russia as a state works. I suppose a micro example in the UK would be Thatchers deep influence on the Conservative party, times 100.
What shocks me the most about this is how long it has taken European politicians to acknowledge Russia's turn to becoming an obvious fascist state. You can just watch Russian movies, listen to them talk, look at how they find scapegoats for every fault in the nation. In 2017, there was a popular Russian movie, promoted on state media which showed Trotsky as a sneaky, conniving dirty Jew, who in the shadows destroyed the beautiful Russian Tsardom. It from start to finish, is a fascist movie - it is narrated by ... an imaginary Ivan Ilyin. Western Europe, specifically Germany, allowed it all to happen before everyone's eyes. Merkel herself kissed Putin's ass for years on end, in a hope he would stay "on side" she's a fat female Chamberlain.
Let’s not say anything about the factions of the Jewish religion init lol…….. but methinks you should read up on the sabbatean Frankish movement
You're just repeating David Icke, that's one of his most common beliefs which he repeated constantly throughout Covid. It's all based on Jacob Frank or something. The Frankism movement is very similar to the Church of Latter Day Saints in the US, aka, Mormons. It's an interesting bit of history if you like that sort of thing, but I would say the claim they control the modern world is mental. All I needed to do to find Sabbatean Frankists on google was type "Icke hates Jews" and it was the first thing that came up
And that was enough for you to stop reading 1666 it was formed and the only thing icke has done is shine a light on its workings……shame on him init by the way if you read anything that’s not icke you will find the same words of manipulation of religions and the evil that they do see no evil hear no evil init ps Latter Day Saints Mormon Church are levels below but have got followers in the right areas to influence government or business but yeah I get your point….you did one minute of research
That's neither Welsh nor English, so I dunno what you're getting at there. Ickey has shined a light on the workings ... if you believe every single word he says. Which you do. You're a religious zealot for him, so it doesn't really matter what he says, you will gulp his load no matter what it is. Have you got an opinion on it though? Like, if what Icke say's is true and there is this group doing this, what would you personally want to be done about it?
knowledge is everywhere but it’s more important when icke says it because it’s usually highlighting events unlike the media you believe which is bought and paid for by the very people who manipulate you and others ps Welshie pretending that he thinks for himself
Ok but like, with all that in mind - what do you personally think and what would you like to be done about these people?
I read about all sorts of cults around the globe dude….the ones with the banks money behind them being the most evil of them all…….what would I do with them……..I’d give em a Pfizer jab
Guy in vid mentions two books one I’ve read called redemption through sin…….but David icke don’t listen to him https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/jeffery-epstein-sabbatean-frankist-cover-up/
Who runs things since the Jews don’t? Who runs the banking systems that influence the worlds economies and wealth and depression? Who understand the cycle of war and profit for the big pigs? Is that made up? its not the Jews…we’ve got that wrong init…can’t be the Jews. I was taught that in school…not the Jews just feel sorry for them. So what do Jews do then? There’s no smoke without fire I mean I can only speak for myself and as a Muslim I am proud to state that we have ‘terrorism’ as our badge of honour on a global level and since the turn of the century the status had been fast tracked thanks to the West What about these Jews that Abe mentions? No one can say that Abe doesn’t have a point because none of you can prove that he’s not right…or can you?
