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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    Remarkably you're now having to justify not falling for dog whistles from someone who's just repeated all of the Labour dog whistles.

    (Polly wants a) Crackers.
     
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  2. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    I might be wrong on this but my reading of things is that pledges have been made but as they do the sums they realise we are in **** street and have to pull back from spending anything. Hence why I keep saying we need to get some alternative pressure like the greens. So someone shows some knackers and takes money from the greedy ****ers and make some changes instead of it being pointless and toothless whatever change happens
     
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  3. rooch 3

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    I was going to vote for the greens but then read some of their policies, more loony than loonies. So it looks like Lib Dem’s and if they go for another referendum just prey they lose again.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Another referendum would be a landslide as things stand ...

    ... not a tiny percentage.
     
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  5. DH4

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    My mate voted leave and phoned me up on the morning of the result to say what a great day it was for the UK. He is now man enough to admit he was wrong.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I really want all this to work because I'm not a f*cking idiot.

    If Brexit, the Tories and Boris Johnson made my life, and my family's future, better I'd be absolutely delighted.

    I don't like Elton John's music, don't like his stage persona and, having met him, don't like the little turd as a person ...

    ... but was happy to say he was the best headliner at Glastonbury.

    Admitting you're wrong really isn't that hard ffs.
     
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  7. vic9

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    I’ve got 25 mates who voted remain, they phoned me yesterday to say I was right should have voted for leave…..easy this
     
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  8. rooch 3

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    IYO <ok>
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    Only 18% of leave voters think Brexit has been a success, poll finds
    Survey seven years on from referendum shows many believe politicians have let them down, thinktank says

    Heather Stewart
    Thu 22 Jun 2023 06.54 EDT
     
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  10. rooch 3

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    No that’s one of DH4’s parrents <devil>
     
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  11. The Exile II

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    It's a landslide all right.
     
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  12. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    And polls are so accurate, were Labour not going to walk the last election?
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    You said it was just my opinion without any attempt at backing it up ...

    ... I added at least a little evidence for my opinion.
     
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  14. rooch 3

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    But that’s not evidence it’s just random people who said that.
    That’s why polls are pointless, if you are hoping they are going to be accurate.
     
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  15. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan Forum Moderator

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    This board would be more peaceful if we didn't have opinions :emoticon-0112-wonde



    . . . . it would be more like the parrot sketch, too :emoticon-0148-yes:


    That's my opinion :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    The idea the opposition cant be judged is wrong in my opinion. You can judge their policies, their behaviour, their standards. Most importantly you can judge whether they have fulfilled their role as opposition party well or not. Officially their role is to scrutinise the work of the government. A job they are paid to do. I would love a job where those paying me said I cant be judged. I dont think they have been very effective as an opposition at all to be honest. Politics in the house of commons is screeching and name calling and they have done that well. There are some decent cross party committees, but not enough. An effective opposition would have brought far more scrutiny. Abstaining is not scrutiny, plausible alternatives are, coherent policy is, doing what you say gives you credibility. All in my opinion anyway. Starmer committed to bring decency back to politics only to then sink to the sort of gutter politics that should be simply banned. It is entirely reasonable, if not edsential, to judge labour on all of these things. When deciding who to vote for surely we judge all local MPs and parliamentary parties before deciding where to put our cross?

    The easiest thing is to criticise the govt. They are hopeless and the worst in my time. Personally I am more focussed on where we will be in 2 or 5 or 10 years time. That will depend on Labour almost certainly. They shouldnt be getting a free pass until they cross to the other side of the house. We need to challenge and judge them in opposition, so they can hopefully be better when in govt.
     
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  17. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    There's also more to that story that's been conveniently omitted.
     
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    I guessed that.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's more evidence than you saying it's just my opinion.

    Not to worry, I believe we'd now vote to remain and I'm convinced of that ...

    ... you don't agree and, tbh, your opinion doesn't count for a lot with me.
     
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  20. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Ditto mate<ok>
     
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