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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Apparently water companies have about £60bn of debts, its also reported about £60bn has been paid out to shareholders in the last 30 years, since privatisation.
     
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  2. The Exile II

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    You seem to be getting more and more deranged by the week, despite Johnson being nowhere near government any more.
     
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    Coincidence man. It would have been worse under Jeremy Corbyn, oh they all the same <laugh>
     
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    What's Jeremy Corbyn got to do with the bonuses paid to water company shareholders during the last 30 years?
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

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    It's abysmal and narrow minded thinking.

    There's a much better way to address the whole situation, which I spelled out in great detail to Priti Patel, but didn't even receive a reply. No doubt she believes her ideas are much better ... sending in Royal Navy gunboats, flying people to Rwanda, mounting advertising campaign's in Albania.

    I'll send it to Yvette Cooper instead <laugh>
     
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  6. DH4

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    Smug, you are making the mistake of presuming these people can read. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

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    <laugh>
     
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  8. The Exile II

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    These people live in a bubble where it's June 2016 every day.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    They can read their bank balances ...

    ... but they can't read the room.

    The public are sick of these people but they just can't see it.
     
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    Five of Sunak's pledges soon to be followed by Sunak's five excuses.

    1. The Bank of England is to blame for not acting quickly enough.
    2. Civil Servants to blame for blocking Brexit.
    3. Global issues to blame primarily Mr Putin.
    4. Striking militants trying to bring down the government to blame.
    5. Lefty lawyers and the EU to blame.
    In fact just mix up the excuses in any order and they'll fit just fine. Sunak said its all down to him if he doesn't deliver ...

    ... but he'll claim he did deliver, left the package in a neighbours porch and someone else ruined it all by running off with it.
     
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  11. The Exile II

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    You seem to be suggesting that he's got to simply bulldoze these things through without reference to anyone else involved. Forgetting that he can't and he shouldn't.

    If he starts telling the Navy to turn back boats, for example. He's fulfilled his pledge, so we can tick that one off, right?

    Maybe he could make it illegal for NHS workers to strike. Job's a good'un, pledge fulfilled.

    And so on. It's straight out of the Labour school of 'we can tell everyone we don't like to **** off and there'll be co consequences at all'.
     
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    I was reading that Starmer is considering a front bench reshuffle. Nandy may be up for a demotion. Maybe she isnt enough of a yes woman for Starmer. She made me laugh out loud when she said Labour would be scrapping their commitment of just 12 months ago on rent controls. She called it a 'sticking plaster' policy. A clear dig at Starmer and his silly slogans perhaps? She visited strikers despite Starmer banning front benchers from doing so, shs didnt get the sack unlike a colleague. She has been critical of some of the so called u-turns in labour policy recently too. I predict something of a problem for Starmer if she is marginalised.

    Speaking of Labour policy changing regularly. I see another being considered re DfiD - something Starmer was so adamant about recently. It is impossible to get a sense of what it is they actually plan to do and how they plan to do it.
     
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    That's quite a bit of speculation and I can't see her being removed from the shadow cabinet altogether tbh ...

    ... she's regularly made available for media interviews, Question Time, etc.

    Most opposition parties have pre-election reshuffles though, so there'll be changes.
     
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    Press speculation. Wouldnt be the first time Nandy has been demoted. Agree she will likely stay in the shadow cabinet. I think she is one of the best Labour MPs and personally Starmer would do well to surround himself with people like her, not push her further away.
     
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  15. Sunderpitt

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    Zac Goldsmith resigns with quite the swipe at Sunak. I tend to think he is right about Sunak not being focussed on the environment. Resigning instead of fighting your corner is not how I think things should be done, but this is modern politics.

    There is an open goal on the green agenda for any political party wishing to score it.
     
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    Isn’t it because he was named in the group who disrespected the findings on Johnson? Sounds like he’s dragging people down on the way out, nothing to lose. It’s right of course. Environmental harm gets in the way of unbound riches
     
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    Well he said explicitly, It was on him these pledges being delivered.

    You love to give these weasels get outs and leeway - only Tory ones though for some reason. It's very entertaining
     
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    That will be the real reason. Another failure catapulted into political high office on the back of Family wealth and public school networks. System is so undemocratic it stinks at times.

    Voted out - woeful mayoral campaign - lends holiday home to a mate in government and hey presto job found and a peerage.
     
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  20. The Exile II

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    Not at all. I'll be applying exactly the same logic to a Labour government because that's what you have to do to maintain a balanced view. The very nature of democracy is based on the idea that it takes two sides coming to agreement to get anything done.

    I do like to highlight the hypocrisy of others not so concerned with that though. See 'TURN, U' for more details.
     
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