In all the stuff that's going on can we just take a deep breath and consider what's going to be best for not only HCAFC but also Nick...? For sure he's Hull through & through & for sure he'd love to be Manager - but is this best for HCAFC or Nicky....? Being Hull through & through doesn't make a good Manager - sad but true. Consider for one minute if we go down the toilet under Barmby, lose a load of matches & end up wrong end of the league. Allems will want someone new in with experience & we lose a legend under a cloud..... He has no experience of managing a top flight club which we all aspire to.... Don't get me wrong I'm a Nicky fan but we need to look at the bigger picture here....he is not Manager material at the moment, as a no.2 fine, he'll learn but at the moment we need experience and know-how of managing from the top.... Might be controversial and sorry if it offends but it's just my opinion.....sorry.....
very sensible post, thought with your head rather than your heart. I love Nicky and have stuck by him throughout the whole time he was here (when he was being criticised by many) i feel he brings a wealth of top level experience as a player and his support for the youth players at City I imagine is huge. However, is this the right time for him to take over? We are just outside the playoffs and hopes are high for a playoff at least finish this season. Does this situation give Nicky time to adapt to what would be a huge leap for him? Would the fans still be giving him their backing if we lose the next 2 or 3? Does it show he will be a success if he wins 4 out of the next 6? This wont be an indication of his potential as a manager but I fear this situation as caretaker manager will judge him on short term results. I'll be behind him 100% when the dust settles, at the moment I feel its too much too soon.
Thanks for your support Meyer - I just have this horrible thought of losing a load of games under Nicky and the Tiger Nation turning on a man who eats lives and drinks black & amber.....sadly people have such short memories and I can already hear the chants " you don't know what you're doing" which may well be possibly be true......
experience doesnt always mean good tho, half the time they have experience of being rubbish or mediocrity..
No disrespect but the word "caretaker" changes the whole tone of the debate and negates some if not all worries. it has to be in the best interests of the club, if we have someone in house who can do the job in the very short term. I doubt that he wants to give up on playing either.
You're right DJ but potentially feeding Nicky to the wolves (or the Tigers...?) helps no-one not least of all Nicky - I'm sure he wants to be Captain of the ship and I'm sure he knows where land is but does he have the know-how to get us there....? As a long time supporter DJ you know as well as me that those with less "history" will turn on him like rabid dogs if it starts to go tits up.................
He's only caretaker manager though isn't he? Until we get a new manager who else on the coaching staff is there to do the job?
i am positive about him being caretaker then permanent manager. ok he has not got managerial experience. BUT he knows all the current players (unlike if we brought in a new man - who would take several games to get to know the players), he is a big enough name to attract new signings, he has played for top club sides (have a feeling who could be coming to the club as a coach). each appointment is a risk, lets not forget and although people may accuse him of being the cheap option - every manager has to start somewhere, so why not here.
Good comment Roger. Being a legend as a footballer does not make a good manager. Many have tried and many have failed. I also believe this is the wrong time for NB and hope it is only a temporary appointment until another manager is brought in as soon as possible.
true, i think he will get a lot lot more time then most tho....i see the points your making, i think its a gamble from the club and barmby, it could go wrong it also go fanatastic, sometimes risks are worth taking.. also the fact he is a caretaker, gives him a settling in period, if after a month hes struggling, he wont be given the job, but if the players respond, we win a couple of games, then hel have earnt chance..
He's worth a punt, he's not my first choice but i agree with DJ's point. I don't want McClaren or Jones or Davies becuase they've already failed at the job we want them to do, in Jones' case with one of the best squads in the league at the time. I'd rather Barmby, Robinson or Clark to any of them despite lack of experience, OLM mentioned O'Driscoll earlier which isn't a bad shout either since he had relative success at Donny with a poor squad. I don't think fear of him not being seen as a hero anymore is any reason not to consider him. At the end of the day if he's capable of doing the job and the powers that be think he's the right man to keep the squad together and get them scoring, then he should get the job. Fortune favours the brave and there's nothing brave about hiring Shteeve bloody McClaren
My view for what it's worth is that at the moment we're in a delicate situation. We have relatively new owners who are just finding their feet in the shark-infested waters that is English football - as a team we're playing well, I haven't seen a team play us off the park this year inc. TWS where we could've beaten them 4-1 - the team are young, keen and want to do well - we need a wise head to sit on top of it all & I don't want to see a legend that is NB completely overwhelmed & eaten alive by those that know no better...
my point is, if he is "caretaker" for 6 weeks he will be judged solely on those 6 weeks - lose 4 games and he will be deemed not good enough, win them and the opposite will be true. Is this going to be a fair reflection on both sides of whether he is a good enough manager? that is my only worry, on both sides of the case. Time will tell, I'm right behind him whatever....
Fair argument, but i doubt Little Nicky is capable of being overwhelmed by anything. He might be new to management but he's been coaching for years (officially at the club for only a year i admit) and he's certainly not new to facing negativity whether it's aimed at him or his team. The only concern about his managerial abilty is his tactical nouse, but if 2 ex-England managers can fail and over the years a whole host of newbies can be successful (Freedman, McDermott, Rodgers, McKay, Jackett) why not Barmby?
i think a lot of people are forgetting why we need a new manager though . Its rare that a city manager is poached away , even rarer that a city manager is poached while doing a stella job at the club. This must be seen as an important distinction to other replacements we have had to endure in our recent past. People fear a Dowie situation , but one thing Dowie had was a team that would struggle to midtable obscurity in the championship. NB will inherit a squad of players he knows (check) that know him (check) he knows Pearsons strategies and way withall (check) He doesnt need to pull off any miracles , just continue the job and improve the one area he is massivly experienced in
This is common sense. Look, what is one of the the most difficult things for an unfashionable club to achieve in English Footaball? My answer is "getting into the Premiership". It took us over a 100 years to achieve that, and in some ways we were very lucky (to get in an survive afterwards). We are now talking about a repeat; but on the cheap.......never going to happen. Love NB to bits, but the club is asking too much and could destroy him if they don't get an experienced hand into the picture, fast.
what i like about him, is he was one of the few who wasnt prepeared to just sit back and let bullard take the piss,.....might be an old school manager, piss him off and you get a right hook! should be more of them!
It's as much about the 11 players on the green stuff as the manager. And the fans. Yes I know the manager is important and can influence a game, but I think Barmby will do just fine, as caretaker theres no pressure on him other than what he puts on himself and he could turn out to be the best manager ever, we just don't know yet. Key is, we get behind the team, the team puts in the effort they're capable of, and either Nick stays as manager or they get someone else in and he acts as number 2. Either way, I suspect Nick will do what he normally does, and that's give 100%, thinks about Hull, and uses his awesome footballing brain, either on the side of the pitch or on it.
