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  1. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    My main reason for voting for Brexit was to bring power back to Westminster from Brussels. I was aware there would be short term pain. Of course Covid and Ukraine has meant the benefits are going to take longer to come to fruition, both were things no one could have foreseen. I’ve no issue if the next government, which is likely to be Labour, or a Lib/Lab coalition look to improve trade with the EU, providing they don’t trade off our sovereignty. The only objection I’ll have with it is that it’s not what was voted for.
     
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  2. wizered

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    I voted leave and am proud of it, the UK can now become a world power house, independent and sovereign, we just need to find honest political leaders to drive us forward and not kowtow to pathetic remainer influence or the EU, we are a European country, free from federalistic influences with global interests and that is where we belong.
     
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  3. AshtonRed

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    It’s the leaders bit we may struggle with, even so I’d rather be controlled by British incompetent leaders,( who we can at least vote out), than EU ones we can’t.
     
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  4. AshtonRed

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    Utopia for me would be separate sovereign European countries that have a free trade agreement to trade across borders. Not being ruled from Brussels, or have to accept unlimited migration, but have the ability to chose who is let in and when. As that isn’t possible I’m personally not prepared to trade off control of our borders, and be made to be governed by proxy from Brussels.
     
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  5. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    last bit spot on unelected "rulers " not welcome. First bit dont agree with "incompetent" description, it is a hard job, and for all their sins [ except last longer than a a few weeks leaders ] they have done relatively well.........
     
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  6. AshtonRed

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    My point about incompetent leaders was a generic one, we can vote out our leaders if we think they are Incompetent. that said if you think for instance Boris, and Liz Truss were competent there’s really no reasoning with you.
     
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  7. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Boris - totally incompetent and a liar all his life
    Truss - probably had the right idea fof growth but went about it the wrong way

    small to medium sized businesses are being destroyed by tax

    politics in the UK needs a major rethink because Labour will continue with the same failed policies as the Tories

    we are getting more in debt as a country every month and no one has the ruthless steak needed to call out the benefits cheats and the lazy people who are major contributors

    stop all immigration immediately, never mind what the world says
    Make people work
    Reduce the population
    And lower taxes
    Bring back national service from 18-21 and teach people manners and give them a purpose rather than being tied to a mobile phone for 16 hours a day

    The country is going to the dogs and no one in power cares
    They’re too busy lining their own pockets
     
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  8. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    As per a previous post......

    The radical cleric (Abassi) who uses hate speech, and who has asked for non believers or critics of the prophet Mohammed to be beheaded, is back in Bangladesh, and I'd suggest that's the best place for him. He gave one talk here, but others in Luton, London, Birmingham and elsewhere were cancelled.
    BUT it's come to light that he was hosted at the Northampton Guildhall by Labour councillor Enam Haque on 16th June.
    When challenged by the media, Haque claims not to know of Abassi's political beliefs or background, which is clearly total and utter nonsense. That in itself needs some serious investigation as to why someone would want to host a person who supports terrorism and anti western views.

    But it begs the question as to why the Home Office ever granted him a Visa to visit the UK is still beyond me. This needs to be looked at and called out, when our Security Services already have 40,000, yes 40,000 people in the UK currently under surveillance as possible terror threats to the rest of the population.

    All those who still want and who support open borders, including celebrities, should be forced to take 3 male asylum seekers in, and house them until their claims are heard. It might knock a bit of sense into them.


    And in other news

    St Pauls Cathedral website has been (rightly) criticised for their stance that Winston Churchill was a white supremacist and an imperialist. The Church of England, along with other institutions such as the NHS and Civil Service appear to have totally lost the plot with their ridiculous views.
    Probably the UK's greatest hero and the main reason that we're now not under German rule and he gets treated like this.

    Lord Nelson is apparently the next in the firing line to be cancelled as he was aligned to the slave trade.

    And the Culture Secretary Lucy Frazer wants the next James Bond to be a woman. If this was coming from Starmers corner I wouldn't bat an eyelid
    If people really want a woman spy, or a lesbian, or trans, then when doesn't someone write a book and turn it into a film ?
    Stop taking characters away and wanting to change them from what they've always been.
     
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  9. bcfcredandwhite

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    Stepping away from my own hatred of Brexit because it’s seriously fked up my retirement plans for a brief moment…….

    What benefits have we seen?

    The 2 parts of the UK which border the EU are seeing Brussels enforcing more control than ever before on their territory, so ‘taking back control’ has been more like ‘giving up control’ for them.
    Where are the benefits? Genuine unbiased question.
     
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    Very little
    The only really tangible thing was the speed to which the Covid vaccine was rolled out in the UK and that we can make Cheddar type cheese in places other than deepest Somerset !
    The rest of it, including N.I, fishing, immigration, sending a lot of Eastern Europeans home etc has been a disaster.
    But assuming anyone in power (not Sunak or Starmer) ever has the will and courage to get behind it and not try to pretend and deny that we're out of the EU, benefits may be seen in the decades ahead. Which I'd suggest that a lot of us on here won't be around to enjoy anyway !
     
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    I was going to mention the cheese - I think that the UK trade deal with Japan allows us tariff-free exports of British cheese, whereas cheeses made in the EU are subjected to import duty.
    So - after putting £billions into the one-armed bandit we managed to win 50p !!!!!!!!
     
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    That sounds like the original Common Market!!
    No country should be forced to accept people they don’t want within their borders.
    Equally, they should not have to evict them after 90 days if they don’t want to either.
     
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    That’s pretty much what it was wasn’t it when we first joined, it’s become overly centralised since and was getting worse.
     
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    The Mail on Sunday reports that a new migrant detention centre in County Durham has been declared "inhumane" by a prisons watchdog because it has slow Wi-Fi, an unreliable mobile phone signal and no hair salon.

    Whatever next?? they will be complaining that free meals sea air luxury matreesses wide screen tv in luxurious lounges with state of the art gymnasium and things to do, and free health care will be insufficient because they they are on a floating hotel!

    £2.5bn per annun what could that buy or pay off???
     
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    When I first read your post even I was alarmed, then I noticed it was in the Mail, The only time I read that paper is when I want to have a laugh, it’s an awful rag.
     
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    I dont actually read any paper papers when WIZ puts them up I read them or occassional links by others..
     
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    The Government told supermarkets that they were profiteering from sales of petrol and diesel and that the costs of both should be up to 10p a litre less at the pumps.

    In the last few days, Tesco and Sainsburys have lowered their prices by 0.9p each per litre for unleaded petrol.

    Despite the billions of extra profit that they all made during Lockdowns where people had no choice but to pay inflated abd unjustifiable price hikes they continue to take us for fools for fuel and groceries.
     
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  18. AshtonRed

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    I found a garage during lock down that was up to 15p per litre cheaper, most of the time around 13p cheaper, I first noticed it because there was a queue of cars waiting in the road that I had to pass to get by.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    That’s good going and I remember you saying that’
    But all the supermarket's are making huge profits, selling smaller quantities of virtually everything, employing less staff and continuing to raise prices when there is no justification

    I noticed it first during lockdown 1 when they put a packet of a certain type of biscuits up by over £1 overnight

    And when they found they could get away with it and use any excuse from Brexit, war in Ukraine, Covid etc it happened across all departments and continues to this day.
     
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    A Murco garage at Rowberrow near Churchill are charging £1.39.9 for unleaded and diesel. Everyone else around, and that includes the major supermarkets in Weston, are still charging £1.45. There is absolutely no excuse for it!
     
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