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The latest Titanic disaster ...

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Jun 19, 2023.

  1. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    Video snippet of the CEO on the news feeds now where he talks about the rules he broke. James Cameron comparing him to the captain of the titanic ignoring warnings. There is going to be a lot of finger pointing and told you so I suspect. Surely there was some sort of licencing by some agency or other?
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    None, because the owners, and passengers, were millionaires they don't have to live by the same rules as us ...

    ... whereas a little boat carrying plebs from Seahouses to the Farne Islands will have half a dozen licences and insurances.

    In this case the plebs are actually better cared for.
     
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    Madness. I dont mind adults making their own risky choices, that is for them. But it does seem bizarre if there are no enforcement of any standards. If that is the case we can be sure that will change.
     
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  4. Gil T Azell

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    None at all from what I've seen either. Rich people chucking cash about hoping it means they are getting 'the best'. Unfortunately, it looks like they brought a knife to a gun fight
     
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  6. Oliver's Army

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    As a side note, the Titanic wreckage has got to be off limits and properly protected from this sort of **** in the future surely? It will have cost millions to search for this sub but **** knows who is footing the bill. Unmanned ROVs only
     
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  7. Gordon Armstrong

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    ****ing hell....
     
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    And there's me thinking taking my dad to the Durham cricket and watching us lose was a harsh father's Day present
     
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  10. Brainy Dose

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    Can't save people from themselves mate. Some will always take a huge risk in search of the thrills and the notoriety......whether it be climbing mountains,expeditions to the Antarctic or the Amazon jungle, or racing motor bikes round the Isle of Man. It's always been the same......Columbus,Captain Cook, Amelia Earhart,the search for the North West Passage....men and women have always put their lives in danger for the thrill of the achievement.....it'll never be any different.
     
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    You're quite right with all of that, discovery by the likes of Columbus, Cook, Livingstone, etc, have been interesting, exciting and world changing.

    However I don't understand why the passengers on Titan are being called explorers or adventurers.

    The Titan passengers were taken to look at something in the same way tourists go on the mini-submarine in Benidorm.
     
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    Yes,agree,they're not discovering anything new. I was posting in response to the preponderence humans have to taking risks.
    In this case,it was probably more about them being able to sit round the admiring dinner table and bask in the glory of having done it.
     
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    Hamish Harding was a member of The Explorers Club and Legends of Aviation. As far as I can see he's only 'explored' places loads of people have already been. TBH that's like people who explore Tuscany.
     
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    Yep,holding Court at the dinner table! I know a few people who do this with tales of bunjee jumps in NZ and snorkelling in the Red Sea.......different level, but essentially the same thing! :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    The vessell had no statutory approval. They would never have allowed something which required you to bolted in from the outside. Utter madness.

    I wouldn't have went in it to the bottom of the deep end in our local pool.
     
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  16. FellTop

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    I suppose it is how you define explore. If it is places nobody has ever been then there wouldnt be much left to explore. Only 2 people have been to the bottom of the marianna trench I think. I like to 'explore' places when I am on holiday. I will visit volcanoes, ancient monuments etc. It is just the act of getting up close and personal with something of real interest to you in my mind.

    The fact they took known risks to do it is their choice. I mentioned doing the 3 peaks earlier, which isnt too comparable. I chose to ignore the official safety advice on the last leg to go to the top of Ben Nevis in bad weather. I had a good sense of the risks and dangers. I was really keen to get there though, on that specific day. It was something I look back on and sometimes think it was reckless, mostly I look back with a sense of it being an adventure and a great memory (to bore people with at dinner <laugh>). Had something gone wrong I may not have been able to get back down. That wasnt necessarily at the front of my mind though. It was the thrill of the adventure. I cant speak for those that have lost their lives here, but I suspect they were doing something they had a huge passion for, maybe the young lad excepted. They probably did see themselves as exploring the titanic wreck would be my sense of it.
     
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    I see the US Navy informed the incident investigation team that they heard what could have been an implosion on monitoring equipment soon after the sub went missing.

    While the official said the sound was "not definitive", the navy said it shared the information "immediately" with the incident commander.

    A navy statement said: "This information was considered with the compilation of additional acoustic data provided by other partners and the decision was made to continue our mission as a search and rescue and make every effort to save the lives on board."
     
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    I didn't see that advertised when I was in Benidorm in 98. Only posters for sticky Vicki and sexy Barbara. In terms of false advertising the only thing correct on the poster was the sticky bit.
     
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    Your ascent of Ben Nevis is more of an exploration in my opinion.

    You had to put in four or five hours of physical effort and make decisions, etc. The passengers on the submarine only had to pay for a ticket then sit there and do what they were told.

    They wouldn't see anything we've not all seen before, probably less, and couldn't have any contact with the wreck.

    They were just paying tourists imo.
     
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