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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    I would be to be fair. Won’t have to share it either.
     
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    500 estimated to have been lost on the migrant boat that sunk off Greece, but we're supposed to reserve our sympathy for 5 multi-millionaires who died playing at explorers. **** off.
     
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    Ahem, Billionaires.
     
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    People are facing lengthy jail sentences for the ‘crime’ of trying to save them too.
     
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    It’s an interesting debate……why do we in the West value one persons life more worthy of reporting their demise, than another persons life ? My thought has always been that because one person “looks like us” or we can somehow relate to them, then in our minds they are more important
    I mean, what horrified most on here more…the genocide and mass killings in Bosnia and Croatia during the civil war there….or the equally appalling genocide and mass killings in Rwanda ?
    It’s sad but true, in my opinion
     
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    Maddie McCann versus any missing child basically ever. Our government lost about 150 and it just seems to go unreported entirely.
     
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    Absolutely……Always felt sorry for the parents of Ben Needham as that hardly got reported. Of course it can work the other way….look at t(e murders of Stephen Lawrence and Richard Everitt, both similar in nature but both reported still in a completely different manner.
     
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    There is a very large contingent of people who laugh gleefully when one of Elon Musk's rockets explode on takeoff or a submersible with wealthy adventurers is lost to the sea. These are people whose envy and dissatisfaction with their own mediocre, unimpressive lives have driven them to despise anyone who does anything different, bold, or daring. They take pleasure in failure because they will never have any successes of their own to celebrate. I guess pathetic assholes of this type have always existed. But it worries me that they are so numerous in our culture, and that over time they are only becoming more and more cartoonishly sadistic.
     
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    He misses the point that these people, like myself, are not laughing “gleefully”, but just pointing out the whole disparity of the whole situation.
    Anyhow, I think I’ve had a major success in my life to survive this long.
     
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    ATTRACTIVE WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE ‘RIGHT-WING’, STUDY SHOWS
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    Scientists in Denmark used AI machine learning techniques to predict political ideology based on facial characteristics.

    The results:

    Attractive women are more likely to be “right-wing.” Meanwhile, women who showed contempt are more likely “left-wing.”

    “For females (though not males), high attractiveness scores were found among those the model identified as likely to be conservative,” the Nature-owned journal Scientific Reports findings explained.

    “These results are credible given that previous research using human raters has also highlighted a link between attractiveness and conservatism.”

    As Chaya Raichik, creator of Libs of TikTok tweeted, “The science is settled.”

    Take a look:

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    Attractive people are the happiest. “Happy faces were likely to be representatives of right-wing parties,” found the study.

    “Attractiveness was not the only correlate of model-predicted ideology. We also found that expressing happiness is associated with conservatism for both genders.



    A liberal woman is never happy.

    Challenging it is to enjoy your day when you are fening outrage online about supposed injustices. Or scouring IG to see how many shares your friends have. Or pretending to care about so-called marginalized groups to appease your white guilt.

    The life of liberal women is exhausting. It takes a toll on their beauty, their dedication to fitness, and their success.

    Sure, the same can be said about liberal men. But the attractiveness of left-wing males is less of a debate:

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    What’s unclear, however, is if the study differentiates liberal women from woke women. As we often explain at OutKick, there is a difference.

    Wokes drip of self-pity. Thus are likely the ugliest group of faces. They and Marxists, of course.

    Ultimately, the study clears up why liberal women were so reluctant to drop their Covid masks and demanded others stay #MaskedUp.

    Masks evened the playing field between the ugly (liberals) and hot (conservative) women.

    Also, some liberal women aren’t actually “women.”
     
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    LABOUR BACKS MANDELSON, DESPITE FRIENDSHIP WITH CHARGED EPSTEIN


    On the day that the damning JP Morgan Report has dropped, a spokesperson for Keir Starmer has said that Peter Mandelson still advises the Labour leader and that he has “no reason to believe he isn’t” a fit and proper person, despite reports about his close friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. Clearly the spokesperson has taken spin lessons from Mandelson himself…

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    The photo above was taken in January 2007, over 6 months after Epstein had been charged with counts of unlawful sex with a minor. Most co-conspirators will be aware of Mandelson’s Machiavellian obsession with the press, so it is unlikely that he hadn’t seen that story when it dropped.


    Mandelson has long struggled with his relationships with incredibly rich men, causing two resignations whilst he was in government. Perhaps under a Starmer Administration there will be the opportunity for a third resignation…
     
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    China demands Britain hands over the Falklands to Argentina... as Beijing continues to threaten Taiwan
    • China accused UK of 'power politics' by keeping Falklands under British rule
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    China has demanded Britain hand over the Falkland Islands to Argentina and called on countries to abandon 'colonial thinking' – all while Beijing continues to threaten Taiwan with an invasion.

    The Chinese ambassador to the United Nations Geng Shuang accused the UK of playing 'power politics' by keeping The Falklands, known as the Malvinas in Argentina, under British rule.

    The Falklands were the subject of a short but brutal war after Argentina invaded in 1982. Britain drove out the invaders after dispatching a naval armada, but the issue has never been considered settled in Buenos Aires.


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    'The issue of the Malvinas Islands is a historical legacy of colonialism,' Mr Shuang said, according to South China Morning Post. 'Although the colonial era has passed, hegemonism and power politics that are in line with colonial thinking still exist today.'

    Failing to mention that China has threatened to annex Taiwan by force if the island's government does not to submit to Beijing's demands, Mr Shuang said colonial thinking has a 'serious impact' on international relations.

    He added that it also 'seriously damages' the sovereignty, security and development interests of the countries involved. 'The international community must remain highly vigilant and resolutely resist this', he said.

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    The UK-ruled Falkland Islands, known as the Malvinas in Spanish, were the subject of a short but brutal war after Argentina invaded in 1982. Britain drove out the invading force after dispatching a naval armada. Pictured: British troops patrol the Falkland Islands last year

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    Mr Shuang made the comments yesterday during a special committee meeting on decolonisation, which adopted a resolution calling on the UK and Argentina to resume negotiations over the Falkland Islands after talks shut down earlier this year.

    In March, Argentina furiously accused Britain of ignoring international law after it ripped up a co-operation pact with the UK and demanded new talks over the sovereignty of the South Atlantic archipelago.

    But in response, Britain's Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said at the time 'the Falkland Islands are British'.

    Argentina believes the Falklands were illegally taken from it in 1833 and invaded the British colony in 1982. The United Kingdom sent troops and Argentina lost the two-month war for the archipelago in a conflict that claimed the lives of 649 Argentines and 255 British soldiers.

    Argentina still claims the islands while Britain says the Falklands are a self-governing entity under its protection. A 2013 referendum there resulted in a 99.8 per cent vote to remain British.

    During the UN Committee meeting yesterday, Mr Shuang said China 'firmly supported' Argentina's claim over the islands and called for the UK to hand over the Falklands.

    'We urge the UK... to avoid measures that may aggravate tension and confrontation, and at the same time actively respond to Argentina's request to resume dialogue and negotiations,' he said.

    The speech parroted the same lines pushed out by Beijing that the US and Western nations are trying to maintain their dominance in the South China Sea when they push back against China's military presence there.

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    In 1982, the Falkland Islands were invaded by Argentine forces who were beat back in a ten-week war ordered by Margaret Thatcher. The islands were returned to British control. Pictured: British soldiers hoisting the flag after the war

    In recent months, China has been ramping up its military presence in the South China Sea and President Xi Jinping said in November that Beijing will focus on preparing for war.

    There are fears that China will invade Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own. Xi has vowed to 'reunify' the self-governing island with the mainland of China, calling it the 'great trend of history'.

    China has increasingly spoken out in favour of Argentina gaining control over the Falkland Islands – and against colonisation – on the world stage. Experts say this is because Beijing wants to challenge what it sees as Western hegemony.

    In February last year, Xi and his Argentine counterpart Alberto Fernandez issued a joint statement which said that China 'reaffirms its support for Argentina's demand for the full exercise of sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands'.

    The joint statement also said Argentina 'reaffirms its adherence to the one-China principle,' a reference to China's claim to Taiwan.

    Argentina claims it acquired the Falklands from Spain in 1816 before Britain asserted its rule.

    In 1982, the archipelago was invaded by Argentine forces who beaten in a ten-week war ordered by Margaret Thatcher and the islands were returned to British control.

    During fierce fighting on land, in the air and at sea, a total of seven British ships were lost, including the Sir Galahad, HMS Coventry and HMS Sheffield, which was struck by an Exocet anti-ship missile.
     
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    British nationals 'will be put at the front of council housing queue under plans being considered by Government' They shouldn’t even be ‘considering’ it…..should ALWAYS be government policy
     
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    No one's saying there's no sympathy for the migrants killed in the boat tragedy, and it got plenty of airtime and plenty of condemnation of the people trafficking scumbags. But five people die in an imploding submarine, including a 19 year old, and the Left is in celebratory mood. Yet another example of its "Be Kind" approach.
     
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    It's the way of the world mate. No life is more valuable than any other but our media and media around the world make you believe that it is.
     
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    I don't think anyone is in a celebratory mood Goldy. It's certainly nothing to do with left or right but more right and wrong.
     
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    Both are desperately sad events, Bob. But the likes of Sarkar definitely get off on the accidental death of successful people. Here's the irony. Both incidents involved migrants taking high risk. The boat migrants took risk in relying on organised crime for their safety. The immigrant billionaire risked his life and his son's going down into some of the deepest parts of the ocean in some amateur contraption run by a bloke who rejected staff of older white men who had been in submarines all their lives in favour of youngsters who knew about the PlayStation controller used in the doomed submarine.

    But the Left, or to be fair, the Hard Left, only have sympathy for the first category of migrant, because Hard Left resents migrants that are more successful than they are, even though these successful immigrants pay massive amounts of tax and provide jobs for large amounts of people. And that is why the anti-aspirational Hard Left will always be marginalised, even within a Labour government.
     
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