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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. vic9

    vic9 Well-Known Member

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    No one voted for Gordon Brown to be prime minister but he got the job through party policies (who I personally thought was alright)
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Did I say rules were broken?

    You were talking about unelected people in the EU.

    Our latest two Prime Ministers, the top position, weren't elected as party leaders ...

    ... so you've had them both imposed on you.
     
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  3. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

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    Spot on. The elected representatives of the party made the decision
     
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  4. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

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    They were actually though Smug, by the party
     
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  5. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    I voted for the Conservatives to be the UK’s government. As far as I’m aware that’s still the case.
     
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  6. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    It is a bit basic mind.

    Although as it's still June 2016 here I'll allow it ;)

    Have you noticed how it always, without fail, ends up back at Brexit? Every political event, every subject, every person. Seven years on, all the main protagonists long gone.

    Imagine still being in the cream puff about anything for that long. To the point where it still dominates your every thought.
     
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  7. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    I guess it is too expensive or problematic to bring Water Companies back into a public ownership, but reading this i wonder?

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  8. The Exile II

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    I think the problem may be the sheer amount of time these industries have been private. Government wouldn't have the expertise to run them any more. If they ever had it in the first place.

    We never hear about how much money these supposedly successful runs of taking rail companies back for a few months costs. If these runs are really making a profit - profit that can be used to buy off an electorate with tax cuts etc. - then why do these companies go back into private ownership first chance the government gets? Or are they just panic pouring money in?
     
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  9. rooch 3

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    Yes, as I've said we've had them imposed on us.

    The PM people voted for was kicked out by a few hundred people. We had no say in it and many people think it was a disgraceful decision.

    Truss was chosen as Prime Minister by 80,000 faceless self appointed people, we had no choice and it was a disaster.

    Sunak wasn't voted in at all, there was no vote after Mordaunt pulled out ...

    ... he became PM after being voted against just a few weeks earlier.

    Hardly a glowing example of democracy is it mate.

    My point is that people are talking about being governed by unelected EU pen pushers when that wasn't the case. We still had a UK government and MEPs were all elected, we had around 10% of the total.

    Now all we have is a UK government that seems out of control and more interested in fighting with each other than running the country.
     
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  11. DH4

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    I don't know who you are talking to Smug as they must be on my ignore list. They either seem to have difficulty understanding your myriad of explanations of how democracy works, are being deliberately abstruse or are "exiled" from reality
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's Ozzy mate who's quite decent and can actually debate a point without lathering his posts in smilies or posting things they clearly don't really believe in, just to try to prove a point.

    People who obviously voted for Boris are now claiming they were happy for him to be kicked out, replaced by Truss and then by someone else a few weeks later without a vote ...

    ... 'Because they voted for the party, not Boris, so anything the party does is absolutely fine' <laugh>

    We're off on a big walk down the Fife Coastal Path today, have fun.
     
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  13. Sunderpitt

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    We all know you read the ignored content, man. You're just too frightened to have your warped view of reality challenged face to face.
     
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  15. vic9

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    If you look closely at your post, yes I was talking about the unelected EU but it was you who took a different line of questioning mentioning our two latest Prime Ministers, as for their promotion to office we all have to accept the process of a political party who were elected to govern the country for 5 years,and govern disastrously by the way
     
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  16. Ozzymac

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    Now i may be a bit thick at times, or drunk mate but the British elections unles i'm mistaken are not like the American elections where you vote for the president.

    I was of the belief that every electorate voted for their local MP and the party that had the most MP's elected then governed. The elcted leader of that party then became Prime Minister, pretty much the same way it works here in Aus.

    If so, surely democracy has worked the way it's supposed to as the peoples representatives have decided who will lead them. The only people that actually would have been voting for Boris would have been those in his electorate. Or am i missing something?
     
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  17. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

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    Wahay, my first ignore that i know about :)
     
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  18. rooch 3

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    He only talks to Smug or himself in his budgie mirror.<ok>
     
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    You aren't, I thought he was talking to Exile. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  20. FellTop

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    You are correct mate. We vote for the local MP and the party policy and manifesto they represent. In reality though the leader of the party at that time is also very much in the thoughts of voters as they are your next PM. Our last elections have been largely a popularity contest, or unpopularity more likely and I suspect a significant % of voters voted either for or against one of the leaders. Of course the rules are once in party members elect leaders in the event of change.
     
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