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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It all adds up to Johnson having a tantrum because nanny told him to get out of bed, get dressed and comb his hair ...

    ... then tidy up his bedroom.

    'Shan't shan't shan't nobody can tell me what to do!!!'

    It's incredible that the man thinks, for a second, that reasonable people will believe all of his lies and bluster ..

    ... and even more bizarre than some people do.
     
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  2. Coastal Dolphins

    Coastal Dolphins Well-Known Member

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    It’s pretty damning so far.
     
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  3. Blond Bombshell

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    1. The report by MPs says ex-Prime Minister Boris Johnson deliberately misled the Commons over lockdown parties at No 10
    2. The committee says it would have recommended suspending Johnson from the House for 90 days
    3. It says he deliberately misled the House, the committee, impugned the committee and was “complicit in the campaign of abuse and attempted intimidation of the Committee"
    4. It also recommends the former PM should not get a pass which allows ex-MPs to access Parliament after they leave
     
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  4. DH4

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    The majority of people won't be fooled ALL of the time. The majority of people won't even be fooled SOME of the time. However, a minority of people CHOOSE to be fooled all of the time :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  5. FellTop

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    It is much more interesting than I thought it would be. Fair play to them. The fact he misled parliament isnt really news. The language they are using is telling though. Closed his mind deliberately, rewrote rules to suit him.

    I am particularly impressed they have retrospectively increased his ban from 10 to 90 days, because of his statement last Friday.
     
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  6. Robertson

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    Privileges committee was biased against Boris Johnson, Tory MP Michael Fabricant suggests

    There are not a lot of Tory MPs willing to publicly defend Boris Johnson any more, but one of them is Sir Michael Fabricant, and on the Today programme he gave an interview suggesting the privileges committee was biased against Johnson.

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  7. Smug in Boots

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    This could've been Johnson, as an MP, misleading the House.

    It could've been the PM misleading the House on a minor subject.

    It could've been the PM misleading the House on one occasion.

    The facts are that the PM mislead the House and therefore the country, on a serious subject, on multiple occasions ...

    ... it's totally indefensible unless you're in love with the man.
     
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  8. Robertson

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    Agreed, very damning:

    Commons privileges committee says Johnson misled MPs and was 'deliberately disingenuous'
    This is what the report summary says about what the committee concluded.

    We established that Mr Johnson:

    a) had knowledge of the Covid rules and guidance.

    b) had knowledge of breaches of the rules and guidance that occurred in No 10.

    c) misled the house:

    i) when he said that guidance was followed completely in No 10, that the rules and guidance were followed at all times, that events in No 10 were within the rules and guidance, and that the rules and guidance had been followed at all times when he was present at gatherings.

    ii) when he failed to tell the house about his own knowledge of the gatherings where rules or guidance had been broken.

    iii) when he said that he relied on repeated assurances that the rules had not been broken. The assurances he received were not accurately represented by him to the house, nor were they appropriate to be cited to the house as an authoritative indication of No 10’s compliance with Covid restrictions.

    iv) when he gave the impression that there needed to be an investigation by Sue Gray before he could answer questions when he had personal knowledge that he did not reveal.

    v) when he purported to correct the record but instead continued to mislead the house and, by his continuing denials, this committee.

    d) was deliberately disingenuous when he tried to reinterpret his statements to the house to avoid their plain meaning and reframe the clear impression that he intended to give, namely

    i) when he advanced unsustainable interpretations of the rules and guidance to advance the argument that the lack of social distancing at gatherings was permissible within the exceptions which allowed for gatherings, and

    ii) when he advanced legally impermissible reasons to justify the gatherings.
     
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  9. DH4

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    Interesting how many synonyms the report uses instead of the word lying. I am waiting with baited breath for my personal favourite "terminological inexactitude" <laugh>
     
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  10. Blond Bombshell

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    What some tories have had to say about Johnson...

    Rishi Sunak
    “Boris Johnson asked me to do something that I wasn’t prepared to do, because I didn’t think it was right,”

    Tim Loughton, a Tory MP and former minister, speaking on Times Radio, said Johnson should “shut up and go away” and branded his allies a “mob”. A government source added: “The witch-hunt narrative is held by a sad rump of Boris worshippers, whose numbers are small.”

    Penny Mordaunt
    We have to be really strong about calling out people out who are attacking institutions. People who are attacking the house for carrying out its work.
    This included those who were attacking the media, she said, adding:

    I never thought I would be defending the BBC. We have to stand up for these things because the price of not doing so is going to be very grave indeed.

    Grant Shapps (energy secretary)
    On Johnson’s disagreement with Sunak over peerages:

    Occasionally Boris wouldn’t be all over the detail – I don’t know if that’s what happened in this particular case …

    I think the world has moved on from what was quite a dramatic period under Brexit and of course under the issues related to Covid, the vaccines and the rest of it.

    Michael Gove (communities and housing secretary)
    Boris’s decision to step down means that he’s no longer a member of parliament, and life moves on.

    David Davis (MP and former cabinet minister)
    The truth of the matter is, ask around parliament, ask most of the MPs, most people are fairly sure he misled the house.

    Michael Heseltine (peer and former Tory deputy leader)
    No doubt he will now go out into the world and make huge sums of money, writing history as he thinks it was conducted. But it will have little to do with the reality of the mess he left behind.

    Unnamed senior Tory MP
    The pantomime has to end. He has to be stopped by whatever means and the sooner the better.
     
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  11. flandersmackem

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    Delighted this over hyped bumbling, narcissistic, self indulgent, pathological liar has finally been put before the sword on something...could have been many other things. He should be barred from ever holding any position in pubic office. Listening to him since the release of these findings have unearthed the real pompous prick he really is.....good riddance
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    He, and his supporters, believe he's an intelligent man acting the buffoon ...

    ... not much acting talent needed tbh.

    His response to any criticism is to pile lies on top of bluster on top of blaming everyone else for his problems.
     
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  13. DH4

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    More like a buffoon acting the intelligent man :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  14. polyphemus

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    I read thatNadine Dorries has backtracked on her decision to resign, imstantly.

    Having spat out her dummy when she realised that she wasn't to be made a Lady, it must of dawned on her there would be implications.
    Like having to 'sign on'.
    Giving up her MP's salary and perks, and not having a House of Lords Attendance allowance and perks to replace them, seems to have sunk in, at last.
    And with a 20K+ majoity, almost 60% of the vote, she has a safe seat.

    Whats the betting that she will try to hold on to it?

    But is she capable of keepng the low profile that might benefit her best?
     
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  15. Coastal Dolphins

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    There’s a sinister side too - intimidation mentioned in the report as well.
    Not the first time he’s been accused of it either the cowardly charlatan he is, imo.
     
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  16. polyphemus

    polyphemus Well-Known Member

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    In fairness to Boris, this approach has, and still is it seems, working quite well across The Pond, for Donald.
     
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  17. Daz

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    That sentence alone sums the bloke up perfectly
     
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  18. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    Except he didn't re-write any rules . . . . he just broke them <whistle>
     
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  19. DH4

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    Marina Hyde in the Grauniad <laugh> 20230615_105958.jpg
     
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  20. Brainman

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    Go gal.
    Ms Debbonaire ripping all and sundry new arseholes.
     
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