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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. Steelmonkey

    Steelmonkey Well-Known Member

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    Interesting development...could easily see Wagner turning on Putin and causing some problems...

    Ukraine war: Russia moves to take direct control of Wagner Group
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    By Matt Murphy
    BBC News

    Russia appears to have moved to take direct control of Wagner, after months of infighting between defence officials and the private military group.

    Deputy Defence Minister Nikolai Pankov said on Saturday "volunteer formations" will be asked to sign contracts directly with the ministry of defence.

    The vaguely worded statement is widely believed to target the group.

    But in a furious statement on Sunday, Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin said his forces would boycott the contracts.

    The private military group has played a major role in the war in Ukraine, fighting on the side of Russian forces.

    But Prigozhin, who is said to hold political ambitions of his own, has been embroiled in a public dispute with Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chief Valery Gerasimov for months.
     
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    Are you suggesting there could be some kind of civil war ? If so, wouldn’t Wagner be annihilated pretty quickly due to pure numbers ?
    As you say, interesting development, if we in the West would ‘pick a side’ (Wagner), or simply let them get on with it
     
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  3. LandOfHoopsAndGlory

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    You read my mind, in advance. Or did I read your mind. Nonetheless, we could see an unholy alliance
    between Wagner and Volodymyr. Or is that Vladimir?
    Their names remind me of the Iran/Iraq sketch by Gryff Rhys Jones (Not The Nine O'clock News).
     
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  4. Steelmonkey

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    Not so much a civil war, but Prigozhin could be a handful if he doesn't get his way, especially as Ukraine is not the only theatre where his mercs are deployed. They've been at loggerheads for months now, about weapons and munitions supplies, about tactics and defensive measures and now they are trying to assimilate the mercs into the regular army and he ain't happy....be one to watch from afar, plays nicely into Zelenskys hand as he starts the counter-offensive
     
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    prigozhin wont be able to do much from prison
     
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    Gulag probably....if he steps foot back in Russia. Novochok poisoning if he doesn't?
     
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    There are now as many former SNP First Ministers who have been arrested as part of a criminal investigation as there are giant pandas in Scotland
     
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  11. LandOfHoopsAndGlory

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    Mate, just pluck that annoying strand out and save yourself a quid.
     
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    I seem to remember her being something of a poster girl for some of our liberal left friends on here during her run ins with Boris.

    Oh dear.
     
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    She’s been released without charge. Now do Michelle Mone.
     
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    So was OJ Simpson
     
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    Fair point. I can’t be having these Tory cucks crowing about other politicians while Johnson, Hancock etc. aren’t doing long stretches.
     
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    Mone is a thoroughly disgraceful individual.

    You're ok with your poster girl though, yeah?
     
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  17. rangercol

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    I'm not a Tory. Never have been.
    Your problem is that anyone who has a different world view to you is a nonce/fascist/tory etc etc.

    You're so immature with these comments.
     
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    Col you’ve spent years defending the indefensible on here. By all means have a different opinion but it’s a bit late to pretend you haven’t. I’m just glad you’ve now seen the light.
     
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    I have no great love for Sturgeon but in the context of our political leaders over the last decade she’s the one-eyed woman in the land of the blind.
     
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  20. kiwiqpr

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    With the state of the tories and the one electoral idea nationalist sweaties labour should romp home in the next election
     
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