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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. rooch 3

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    The parrot's probably got a less shallow understanding.

    I suppose when you've got everyone on ignore you don't learn anything.
     
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    What a div.
     
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    An ally of Boris Johnson has resigned "with immediate effect", triggering a third by-election for the Tories.

    Nigel Adams, MP for Selby and Ainsty, has stood down but did not say why. It comes after Mr Johnson quit ahead of the Partygate report. Nadine Dorries resigned earlier on Friday.


    Kuenssberg has got the knives out as well:

    Boris Johnson had to leave Downing Street last summer because a majority of his Conservative colleagues thought he was doing more harm than good.

    Now a committee of MPs is set to judge he didn't tell the truth. That committee is made up mainly of Tory MPs. The former PM has faced the same procedure as other MPs that get into trouble.

    And while Johnson claims he has been "forced out", remember he has chosen to quit before we even see the black and white of their verdict.

    It is also a fact there are some Conservatives who begrudge him his success. It is also true that during his last few months in No 10 there were internal enemies trying to force him out.

    But to dress that up as a grand conspiracy is, candidly, a stretch. One of those who knows him best told me his resignation announcement was "1,000 words that tell you everything about Johnson's mindset - it's your fault not mine".

    Rather than confront what has happened or try to defend himself from the judgement that is coming, Boris Johnson made a political choice this week not to stay and fight.

    As ever, the line between farce and tragedy is skinny. While most of the headlines screamed of the shock, the former prime minister's exit from Parliament is entirely on brand.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-65860705
     
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    Ms Kunessburg has the right of it i reckon.
     
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    I think you are right. And to think Boris always let her have the first question at Covid briefings, he must feel let down :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Bonko's so called successes..

    Winning big majority

    The size of the Con majority cannot be denied. But was this down to Labour having toxic Corbyn as leader whilst suggesting a new referendum on Europe.

    Got Brexit Done

    Well, yes, but as is proving, his hard Brexit as opposed to say Mrs May's version is a terrible deal. Seriously hurting the economy and certainly not stopping immigration. Plus of course the Northern Ireland problem... Sunak seems to have sorted that. Ps I voted for Brexit.

    Vaccine roll out.

    Yes this did occur on his watch, however most of the credit should go to Oxford University/Astra Venaka and the NHS staff, ie doctors and nurses, working like the clappers to get the drug in our arms. I just cannot see how a couple of bumbling incompetants like Hancock and Bonko were a help in any way. Other than of course to claim credit for others hard work and creativity.
     
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    Support for Ukraine?
     
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    Yep... I will certainly give you that...

    Although as far as I can see all parties are supporting the war.

    If i wanted to poke a bit more, it seems everytime Bonko, through some lies ended up in trouble... He went to Kiev for photo opportunity.

    Imho the fight Ukraine is in against Russia, is as their President says the fight for everyone.

    This is where also Bonko's Maxi Me, Drumpf has got it wrong.

    Those rumours about Drumpf when he was looking to build a Trump Tower on Moscow years ago being caught in a honey trap video, 2 woman pizzing on him. This is what Putin has over him???
     
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    That's true although Johnson was also very quick to get his face in the frame. The aid he gave, totally unsurprisingly, was heavily militarily biased rather than humanitarian. He always wanted to be Churchill but looked more like Thatcher in her little tank.

    Surprisingly the greatest contributors, GDP wise, are Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania although I've not seen their PMs jumping in front of cameras.

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    It's happening
     
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    She's a tory blue, wonder where she's going now the Liar has left the party
     
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    Whatever her hue, she sounds right pissed off with Bonko
     
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    You have to admire anyone who holds their hands up and says 'I was wrong about the clown'.
     
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    Saff in the third post on the thread. Who later referred to Bojo as a "great bloke" during the Sunak election by Tory MPs, and also had Boris as his avatar. But who has disappeared recently.

    What do you reckon Saff?
     
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    I believe that is the case,

    But it has been claimed that there is hardly a Railway System in THE WORLD, that opperates without a Public Subsidy.

    The old British Rail,highly subsidised as it was, was constantly holding out 'the begging bowl', while delivering a very poor level of service, overall.
    Strikes were common and the 'sandwhiches at Number10, approach, never seemed to produce any lasting improvements.

    The current system is no improvement.
    I believe that the philosophy was that by splitting the opperation into more or less regional companies, would bring in some level of competition, which in turn would produce effifiencies.

    So much for theories.
     
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    Quite right.

    Difficult to think of anything as stupid as a 'My Party/ Country/Hero. right or wrong' Philosophy.

    It must, at times be, to put it mildly, uncomfortable, living with such beliefs.

    Personal I believe that most politicians are flawed to some extent.
    By definition this means that Political Parties will most likely also be flawed.

    This gives me the option to pick OR choose which bits of their policies I like.
    Not, of course, that my approval, or oyherwise will bother them at all.
     
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    I learned, as I got older (maybe a little wiser too) that the my party approach was not for me. I grew up in a Labour household, was a loyal supporter, and fell out with a few people as I grew up. Not least of which was my father in law who found my one sided opinions laughable. He said to me once, I think you are an intelligent bloke, who is irrational about politics.

    I think it was becoming a father that made me think more about politics. Suddenly I felt like I was voting for my lads futures, not for my own here and now. I have voted based solely on policy in the last 20 years, not on my political bias, which is still Labour at heart. In looking at policy I have never felt any party has the right of it all, they are all at odds with what I would like in entirety. It is a case of finding the best fit.

    As it stands today that is Lib Dem for me. Not perfect at all. But they are closer than the other 2 for me, and I probably wont read any conservative manifesto as I tend to think no matter how good it may be any victory would divide even further what is already quite a divided country.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    I'm always cynical about them all but only tend to criticise those in power, especially when there's a large majority and their excuses are less plausible.

    The slavish defence of Boris Johnson, from some, has been quite weird ...

    ... they're like battered wives who never want to press charges.

    "Err no he's lovely, I walked into a door."

    Even worse when they actually start to believe their own lies <doh>
     
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