A balanced piece on Dickie here if anyone is interested. Clive, the author, is complimentary about your chances next season. https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/60318
Yeah, and I sympathise with that even if he was a big part of why it was struggling. There’s undoubtedly a player in there if a manager can get his head right and it wouldn’t surprise me if he turns out to be a good player for you though I honestly doubt he will be as his flaws are huge in the wrong system and it sounds like those flaws are shared by your other defenders. Don’t rate the bloke but don’t hate him. Fresh start for him in what sounds like a team with playoff potential and he’ll inevitably smash a couple in from range.
He has the right coach in Nigel Pearson a big strong defender in his day-if anybody can sort him out Big Nige will.
If I’m honest I don’t see any evidence that Nige has the affect you suggest on defenders, I’m not even sure he gets involved in coaching, he’s more of a man manager he allows his coaches to do the coaching.
Do you know you lot got me thinking earlier and I think you are correct, Nige is a manager and a leader,he delegates the coaching roles to his staff, the medical stuff to his fitness experts, the academey and scouting to Tinman, the finance and negotiations to his CEO, he decides on selction, tactics, team management, discipline, substitutes and as has been stated man management, in other words he really is the GAFFER.
I think the only real difference here, compared to say DH, LJ and SC is, they were all more involved in the coaching than NP appears to be. But this is much more the modern way in football now. It's no longer just a sport, but a huge money machine...
Sorry got to disagree-Nigel Pearson was a full on hard hitting top class central defender-his experience in the game in that position as captain of Boro in very good times in the prem. He will have bags of Knowledge and experience to pass on. I would be very surprised on the training pitch if he does not have a big say in what he wants-yes may tell the coaches what he wants but still has a big say.
I think what Ashton was saying, and certainly what I'm saying is, given what you have said about Pearson's traits as a player (and I agree btw), our defence has not shown those traits during his tenure thus far. We have, at times, been all over the shop defensively with really bad, basic errors from pretty much every defender. I would expect someone of his playing caliber to have coached that out of them, but he doesn't seem to have. Maybe because he is not as actively involved in the day to day coaching, who knows...
Very good times in the Prem? Was that the two seasons they conceded 110 goals (had to check out Boro’s good times in the Prem on Wiki. Finished 10th then relegated in the two years) . To me he was better in Sheff Wednesdays team. He was a good defender there is no doubting that, but the way you go on about him is like he was a Terry Butcher or Tony Adam’s class. He didn’t even have any international games from memory.
We've been 'all over the shop' defensively because of poor players and some playing out of position due to injuries of others - Kalas, Atkinson etc. Not poor coaching. Pring eg he's done his best centrally but is a far more accomplished LB. Vyner is just ordinary and better in 'their' box than ours. Let's see what the new additions bring.
Atkinson and Naismith have made as many mistakes as Vyner, and they played in their normal positions. You just won't acknowledge that. Sykes has been constantly caught out at RWB, and Pring has at LWB as well.
Plus some of his setups, formations, tactics and substitution's were horrendous........but admittedly have much improved since the world cup break....which shows that he's finally worked out how we play best when you play with the right shaped pegs going in the right shaped holes....
Here you go Rod-not bad ehhhhhhh Sheffield Wednesday[edit] Pearson moved to Sheffield Wednesday in 1987. He won the League Cup as Sheffield Wednesday captain, during the 1990–91 season, being selected as "Man of the Match" in the final at Wembley. In the same season, he also helped Sheffield Wednesday win promotion to Division One.[3] During the 1992–93 season, he helped Sheffield Wednesday reach both domestic cup finals, but broke his leg in the League Cup semi-final, and therefore could not play in either final.[3] In all, Pearson made more than 200 appearances for the Owls, scoring 14 league goals – including the club's first in the Premier League in a 1–1 draw with Everton at Goodison Park on the opening day of the 1992–93 season.[7] Middlesbrough[edit] Middlesbrough manager Bryan Robson signed Pearson for £750,000 in 1994. Pearson captained them to promotion twice and to three domestic cup finals.[3] Pearson retired from playing in 1998.[2] Think you have to agree not bad eh Rodney
Weren’t they all head coaches?, NP is a manager. I’m pretty sure it’s not so much modern, it’s the way it used to be years ago. AD I’d say was a manager, as were most in the day. Brian Clough the same, coaches coached leaving managers to manage.
