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Ali v Frazier

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Nov 12, 2011.

  1. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Coming on BBC1 shortly. Compare and contrast to the heavyweight division we know today.
     
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  2. Rorschach

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    nothing to compare. todays heavyweights couldn't lace the gloves of the top fighters for that era.
     
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  3. RebelBhoy

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    Lennox Lewis beats them both imo.

    The finest heavyweight of all time.
     
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    Im awesome at boxing!
     
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  5. The Raging Oxter

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    Sure <ok>
     
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  6. Billy Death

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    And you are how old?
     
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  7. Billy Death

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    All arguments apart, when is it on Ardoyne?
     
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  8. Ciaran

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    It was on at the end of the Olympic qualifiers there, only showed the last round, they were talking like they were gonna show it all <doh>
     
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  9. RebelBhoy

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    Nothing to do with it. Lewis was the greatest Heavyweight of all time. He'd have suited that era.
     
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  10. Billy Death

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    The Thrilla in Manila is on You Tube but it's pixelated to ****, you can hardly see it.

    Best ever fight in boxing history for me.
     
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    Just shows the value of true competition.
    The division was at it's best at that time because there were a lot of fighters at a very high level and they weren't afraid to fight each other.

    I hate to think what would happen if a similar crop of boxers came through now.
    They'd spend all of their time avoiding bouts and beating up bums.
     
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  12. RebelBhoy

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    Some of those Brits look very handy. a few of them very well suited to the pro game. Anthony Joshua is getting better all the time. A good showing next year. Maybe a medal and then go pro. He has it all.
     
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  13. Billy Death

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    Just asking your age mate so I can judge how far you can go back.

    Not having a go.

    There are several heavyweights that would kick the **** out of Lewis. I'm not trying to belittle the bloke but I think even he would agree with me there.

    Back in the 40's fights were not stopped for nowt like they are now due to health & safety rules. They were allowed to just batter the **** out of one another.

    Don't take it as though I'm having a go at you ok?
     
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    There are plenty of competitive bouts getting made at every weight, except at HW. Real world level fighters going at it all the time.
    The British HW scene is packed full of great bouts that can be made. Admittedly a lower level, but hugely interesting. Add to that the Irish fighters Rogan and Perez (Tyson Fury is ours too<ok>) and the matches that can be made are really good. Perez is a mile in front in terms of skill, but he seems lazy.

    Fury on tonight and so is a certain Christopher Eubank.
     
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    <ok>
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

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    The undercard's not on TV here though, is it?
     
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  17. RebelBhoy

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    Prime Lewis was an absolute machine. I appreciate it isn't as exciting as all these great fights that were made in yesteryear but in terms of sheer skill, he was unequalled. Size, he had an advantage. The jab was up there with Larry Holmes and could keep anyone off. A typical Manny Steward machine, but that doesn't disqualify him from consideration. History will remember him favourably I think.
     
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  18. RebelBhoy

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    They'll show it after i think.
     
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    Cheers. <ok>
     
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    Don't hold me to that though. They did mention that they would be showing young Eubank. I don't think they'd miss that trick anyway.
     
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