There's a data point figure where the disease should be eliminated due to immunity. From my understanding, covid-19 mutates constantly, like the cold virus, so immunity can't be reached. Hence the supposed need for constant vaccination. Hence why the population is no longer immune after a period as the virus has mutated. Is this incorrect? What was the point of those who had natural immunity getting the vaccine and being obliged to do so?
No. Maybe I didn't write it clearly enough or there's been a choice to misunderstand. Vaccination works that enough of the population get vaccinated, a data point percentage figure, that the disease disappears due to immunity... But due to the case of Covid mutations, this level of immunity cannot be reached, hence the need for constant vaccinatio .
Britain suffers cancer crisis after pandemic prioritised Covid Operations were cancelled on a scale seen almost nowhere else in Western Europe with deaths from some types of the disease tripling ByLaura Donnelly, HEALTH EDITOR22 April 2023 • 6:50pm Cancer operations fell more in Britain than almost anywhere else in Western Europe during the pandemic’s first year, international research shows. The study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) shows how efforts to “protect the NHS” from Covid meant cancer operations were reduced on a far greater scale than in other countries. Deaths from some types of cancer tripled during the pandemic. A leading cancer expert said the situation was “catastrophic” amid record waiting times for treatment. The international study, which compares 25 OECD nations, examined four common procedures for treatment of cancer and other health conditions in 2019 and 2020. It shows that for each of them Britain reduced surgery levels on a scale seen by almost no other country in Western Europe. The research also highlights a previous study which showed that every four-week delay in surgery for cancer increased the risk of death by about 7 per cent. In total, the number of prostate cancer operations fell by more than 40 per cent in 2020, against an OECD average of 16.6 per cent. Advertisement Routine surgery stopped in pandemic The number of mastectomies fell by 15.2 per cent, against 8.5 per cent across other nations, with other breast cancer operations falling by 23.6 per cent, against an OECD average of 16 per cent. In each case, Ireland was the only nation in Western Europe to see a higher drop. Meanwhile, hysterectomies, used to treat womb cancer, fell by 36.4 per cent, in the UK against an OECD figure of 18.6 per cent - the highest of all nations in Western Europe. Much routine surgery was stopped during the early stages of the pandemic, with cancer patients among those who saw operations cancelled. Meanwhile, difficulties accessing GP care fuelled delays in diagnosis, meaning thousands more patients are now coming forward, often at a far later stage of disease. “The disruption in early diagnosis has created a backlog of patients that will eventually seek cancer care but often for cancer detected at a later stage requiring more complex treatment and with lower survival probabilities,” the study warns. The data follow warnings that efforts to prioritise Covid during the pandemic have had a catastrophic impact on other diseases, and fuelled record waiting lists. Advertisement Prostate cancer deaths triple Last year a study of NHS hospital data by the charity Prostate Cancer UK found a tripling in deaths among men with prostate cancer in the first year of the pandemic. The research showed an extra 5,000 extra deaths of men with prostate cancer during the pandemic, of which only around 1,000 were caused by Covid. Some experts have said the NHS had little choice but to stop swathes of surgery, because the health service has limited bed capacity. Separate OECD data for 2021 shows the UK has just 2.3 hospital beds per 1,000 inhabitants, compared with 7.8 in Germany and 5.7 in France. In Western Europe, only Sweden has fewer with 2 per 1,000. More than 7 million people are now on NHS waiting lists in England, a record high, with more than 530,000 operations and appointments cancelled in recent months as the result of strikes by doctors and nurses. Earlier this week analysis by Labour found patients waiting almost two years for diagnosis of cancer, or the all-clear. Prof Pat Price, an oncologist from Imperial College London, and chairman of the charity Action Radiotherapy, said: "This is yet more international analysis highlighting the urgent situation in UK cancer care. “There is no denying that our cancer services have been greatly impacted. Record waits for life-saving treatment, a growing backlog, and an exhausted workforce all point to a dire situation for cancer patients. We need a giant political push on cancer recovery - this must be a national priority.” Government 'not dealing with this crisis' Prof Price, co-founder of the #CatchUpWithCancer campaign, said: “I am shocked that it feels like the UK Government is not dealing with this crisis with the speed, impact or investment needed to restore our cancer service.” Naser Turabi, Cancer Research UK's director of evidence and implementation, said: “The pandemic had a huge impact across cancer services in the UK, and surgery was no exception to this. “Though capacity was reduced, measures such as Covid-secure surgical hubs were taken to help cancer patients receive their treatment safely. But cancer services across the UK were struggling even before the pandemic. “Despite the tireless work of NHS staff, month after month, people affected by cancer are waiting too long to receive a diagnosis and begin vital treatment. We urge the Government to show political leadership on cancer and take actions that will transform cancer services so every patient has the best chances of survival.” A Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: “The NHS has been seeing and treating record numbers of patients for cancer over the last two years, and we know it is making good progress in getting through the Covid backlogs. "Over nine in ten patients are starting cancer treatment within one month, and the number of patients waiting more than 18 months for elective care has fallen by more than four-fifths since the peak last September." An NHS spokesman said: “Thousands of people held off coming forward for cancer checks during the early phase of the pandemic and as a result treatments for cancer including surgery fell in 2020 – but for those who did come forward, NHS staff worked hard to maintain care, with over nine in ten people treated within a month." 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"The World Health Organization has declared an end to covid-19’s designation as a public health emergency of international concern, saying the pandemic is on a "downward trend" https://www.newscientist.com/articl...&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-7eXzkBIVPQk15YL0vNkWkQ
They can get to ****kkk!! https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/05/25/who-pandemic-treaty-lockdown-uk-ministers-fear/ WHO could gain powers to impose lockdown on UK MPs fear new treaty designed to increase the organisation’s powers would enable it to enforce border closures and vaccine passports ByTony Diver, WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT25 May 2023 • 8:10pm Lockdown measures could be imposed on the UK by the World Health Organisation (WHO) during a future pandemic under sweeping new powers, ministers fear. Member states would be obliged to follow the agency’s instructions when responding to pandemics, including by introducing vaccine passports, border closures and quarantine measures, under a draft update to its regulations. A new “pandemic treaty” under discussion would also force Britain to spend five per cent of its health budget on preparing for another virus outbreak. Ministers are understood to be alarmed by plans to increase the WHO’s powers enabling its governing body to require countries to hand over the recipe of vaccines, regardless of intellectual property rights, and to counter misinformation. Conservative MPs have written to ministers to warn of an “ambition evident…for the WHO to transition from an advisory organisation to a controlling international authority”. Foreign Office urged to block powers In their letter, seen by The Telegraph, they urge the Foreign Office to block powers that “appear to intrude materially into the UK’s ability to make its own rules and control its own budgets”. Responding to the concerns on Thursday, Andrew Mitchell, a Foreign Office minister, told The Telegraph that he would block any law that prevents the UK from setting its own health policy. “The UK is supportive of the pandemic treaty currently being negotiated by national governments, which could speed up the sharing of data on new pandemic threats so we are able to respond quickly in the event of future pandemics,” he said. “We’re clear that we would never agree to anything that crosses our points of principle on sovereignty or prevents the UK from taking decisive action against future pandemics.” Changes to make WHO advice 'binding' The rule changes have been proposed as part of plans to update the WHO’s International Health Regulations (IHRs) in light of the coronavirus pandemic and establish a new Pandemic Preparedness Treaty. 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A draft of the treaty itself would commit member states to spending five per cent of their health budgets, plus a proportion of GDP, to pandemic preparedness. 'Particularly worrying' Six conservative MPs led by Esther McVey, the former Cabinet minister, have written to Mr Mitchell to call for a Commons vote on the draft treaty and regulations before they are signed. Ms McVey said: “There is, rightly, growing concern about the WHO’s Pandemic Treaty and International Health Regulations. “The plans represent a significant shift for the organisation, from a member-led advisory body to a health authority with powers of compulsion. “This is particularly worrying when you consider the WHO’s poor track record on providing consistent, clear and scientifically sound advice for managing international disease outbreaks.” The letter has also been signed by the Tory MPs Sir John Redwood, David Davis, Philip Davies, Sir Christopher Chope and Danny Kruger. Mr Kruger said: “Coordination and cooperation in a public health emergency is sensible but ceding control over health budgets and critical decision-making in a pandemic to an unelected international organisation seems profoundly at odds with national autonomy and democratic accountability.” Campaigners also expressed concern about increasing the WHO’s role in identifying misinformation, after its experts dismissed the “lab leak” Covid origin theory only to later accept it “remain(s) on the table”. Molly Kingsley, co-founder of the UsForThem campaign group, said: “We should all be concerned about the WHO being ordained as an arbiter of pandemic truth, especially given its poor record during the pandemic, such as its claim that Covid was definitively zoonotic in origin and its April 2020 denial of the role of natural immunity in protecting against infection.”
It's just an opening negotiating position, they don't actually expect everyone to agree to this, which is handy as nobody will.
That reads as though it is formalising the current arrangement, as Public Health in England take their guidance from Tedros* already. *It's worth looking up his history to get a measure of the man, and therefore the organisation. He 'cured' cholera by re-designating it as diarrhea.
There's very little point arguing it - a significant percentage of the population are happy to put their health and the control of their lives into the hands of organisations, rightly or wrongly. What is odd was that excessive deaths over the mean drove media coverage and public and political responses during the pandemic period. Currently across western Europe, excessive deaths are far higher than during the pandemic and yet not much is spoken about it. But again, it's an uncomfortable discussion for many to ar with themselves. That's life.
They were surprisingly high last year, but it's calmed down now and excess deaths are pretty much zero across Western Europe this year (only the Netherlands and Greece are significantly up at around 10%). Though that's based on the EU's figures, so no longer includes the UK.
The number of deaths registered in the UK in the week ending 28 April 2023 (Week 17) was 13,690, which was 12.9% above the five-year average (1,569 excess deaths); of these deaths, 531 involved COVID-19. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...landandwalesprovisional/weekending28april2023
It's based on the first quarter of 2023 and as that's one of the two worst quarters in the year (being winter), they're encouraging figures.
As I posted, they're UK figures and nothing to do with the EU. I treat ONS figures with caution, and EU figures with extreme caution.
I don't know how anyone can claim there are excess deaths when they haven't the faintest idea how many people are living here
