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Athiest Jews

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Ok so its another jewish thread, and I apologise in advance

    Basically the notion of atheist Jews was raised in another thread so intrigued I looked into it

    A study done in the mid 90's found almost 40% of Israeli Jews were atheist or agnostic (Over 30% athiest)

    Source: Kedem, Peri. 1995. "Dimensions of Jewish Religiosity. " Pages 33-62 In Israeli Judaism, edited by Shlomo Deshen, Charles Liebman, and Mishe Shokeid. London, UK: Transaction Publishers

    How on earth can they then argue Israel belongs to them because God said so?

    Not trying to make any points here, just genuinely suprised

    and for the pedantic ***** yes it is spelt wrong
     
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  2. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

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    This is a serious question how can you be an atheist Jew? Judaism is just the religion isn't it and to be a Jew you have to believe in God etc.
     
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  3. Toby

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    Go away and die somewhere you tedious prick <ok> <youwishyouwereateacher>
     
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  4. Toby

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    You can be jewish without believing the whole god thing. It's passed down on the mother's side <ok>
     
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  5. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

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    **** off. Some tramps need there cocks sucking and there might be some baccy in it for you.
     
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  6. RebelBhoy

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    No, the Jews are also identified as a race as well as a belief set.
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    That is why I asked it TBH. I was genuinely interested
     
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    Smell of spunk around here.

    Have you farted Toby?
     
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  9. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    see you can be sensible

    By this notion then you can be a muslim/christian Jew too
     
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  10. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

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    But I could take Judaism up as a faith. That doesn't change my race though.
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    thats a bit complicated IMO as there are 2 types of Jew. basically Arab and European
    Then you can have balck converts etc

    Point is though the notion of Israel is based on GODS word
     
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    You chat up guys on the internet and i'm gay? <laugh> <doh>
     
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  13. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

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    I could be bi darling <ok>
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    There is some argument that the zionist political agenda wants to do away with religion all together
    which is even stranger

    take God out of the equation and Israel has no basis for existence as a homeland promised by God
     
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  15. Toby

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    The ****ty God concept comes up everywhere: God save the Queen, In God we trust,...

    The French got it right, they ****ed off their monarchy and got rid of most aspects of religion from the state.
     
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  16. Toby

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    So would any atheist in the US <doh>
     
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  17. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    you dont get it it do you?
     
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  18. jerseymackem

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    This, Jewish culture is similar to Arab culture. You can have secular Jews, who follow the traditions just because they're used to them, not necessarily because of religion.
     
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  19. RebelBhoy

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    Yes, but nationality is a construct and these people identify with that construct. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with their faith
     
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  20. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    what???

    FYI athiesm in the US is not as widespread as some think in comparison to other countries

    some stats say 10% ish
     
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