The aforementioned problems are mainly things you've dreamt up, for example we might lose 6 on the bounce. £675,000 is nowhere near the worth of Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh. Pearson went on about leaving Leicester because he didn't feel like the board wanted him. If they won't shell out 50% of what they paid Sven to get him out, I can't imagine like he feels that your board are desperate to appoint him. Penny for his thoughts.
According to http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spor...ay_quit_hull_to_force_move_to_foxes_1_3959495 Pearson has a 700k clause in his contract. That is what is confusing me - if we force the issue then there is nothing Allam can do about it - he put that backdoor on the contract and should have put an extra 500k on it if he wanted that - but we haven't which makes me think we are waiting for something (or someone) beforehand.
It's been mentioned on other threads that the scrambling is over compensation payments for Shakespeare and Walsh too.
To be honest I think there's a little bit of desperation due to the situation colouring your reasoning. The fact is that Pearson is history as far as HCAFC are concerned and will not manage the club again. Our supporters and by all acounts the owners and management are reconciled with that and we are now moving on with some enthusiasm to find a new manager that might have several qualities that were sadly lacking in Pearson. Such a manager could be just what we need to really ignite our season. Of course we might also end up with a knobhead but that's football. So when you say Hull are the only losers in this you're wide of the mark. The other thing is that our manager search is on-going while yours has stalled, so time is more Leicester's problem than Hull's. The Allams (and their lawyers) will be well aware of all of the contractual issues and also the possibility of Pearson quitting, yet they are still resolute to hold out for 1.2 million. This suggests that we are in a good legal position. Put all of that together and I think it's Leicester and particularly Pearson who have the most to lose.
Whatever new manager you get (if Pearson leaves) will want his own backroom staff - not anyone from the previous regime that wanted to leave. Is Allam stubborn enough to keep Shakespeare and Walsh and carry on paying their wages and then giving them a big severance package to leave? If so then we can bring over Pearson and then wait a while to get Shakespeare and Walsh when they are free agents.
In fairness without seeing into the future I can only make assumptions & senarios based on certain current facts. I'm pleased losing 6 games on the trot seems an impossibility to you and therefore just in my dream. But, taking what I've said as constructive points, I still think Hull are best to let this bloke go now. We know Pearson is a shot force at Hull City, I sympathise with Hull and their fans over they way Pearson wants out, but it does you club no good wrangling over money not even, it seems, in his contract. As I've stated before, the point has been made by your owner, why make Leicester walk away? Indeed, I also agree with other points made that our owners should just stump up £500,000 and be done with it. Just as good an argument I guess, hence the stalemate...
Yeah I agree with pretty much everything you say. Frankly I think your board are the ones who are right; Pearson isn't worth the money we've quoted you; he's not that good. He's got a decent record with us, decent, but not amazing. He had a very good record with you but with players who have proven to be top-half Championship quality in League One. Having watched Fryatt for the best part of a year, I'd expect him to score hatfulls in League One. I think it's a bit embarrassing to be honest. Allam is obviously making a point about how powerful he is etc and having done legal advisory work for people with similar levels of assets to him, he's not the only person in the world with tonnes of money who hates not getting his own way. If I was a betting man, I'd say that your board will pay what he's asking. I don't think he'll wilt; he's too much of an *rsehole for that. Your board seem to be free-spenders and if they're serious about appointing Pearson then they could just shell out the extra half mil. You're right about risking a whole load of problems for the sake of a relatively small sum given his assets. It's also giving us less time to appoint a new man unless they're already working on that. Personally, I'd let him go when your board meet the clauses in all three of their contracts, otherwise you'll end up with Pearson on his own, which by all accounts isn't quite as effective as with the other two.
TBF I'm not desperate in my reasoning. I'm not desperate for Pearson. I'm trying, whilst avoiding insults that have been flying around on these pages, to make sensible points about this whole situation. Looking at it, no matter what, Hull will be looking for a new manager now. The same as Leicester. We both have just over 1 week till our next game. The big difference is if Leicester walk tonight, you're also left with your current manager who's position is now untenable. Therefore, I disagree with you other point, Leicester don't have the most to lose.
I hope for both sets of fans sake you appoint a satisfactory (to you) replacement. Hull move on, we move on. You get to hate Pearson, we hopefully get promoted etc etc etc. I think Pearson must come out, on record and give the reasons to the Hull fans why he wanted out? He will be shamed if this was only for money, which seems the only plausible reason at the moment. Frankly, if the shoe was on the other foot, I'd be unhappy to say the least. I hope, for Pearson's sake, something comes out in the wash that explains why he wanted out. Like I've said before, if you're happy in a job, why leave? MONEY!!!
It would get the most respect from me if he did come out and say it was about the money. It's all football is about nowadays. He hasn't played for either of our clubs, he's not from either of our cities, and you can bet your bottom dollar if you were broke and bottom of the league he wouldn't be desperate to jack us in! That said, he'll definitely say it's about going to the "bigger club", "winning things" or that he has an "affinity" with your supporters. He owes neither of us anything, so I don't blame him for going and quadrupling his wages or whatever, good luck to the bloke.
Obviously I'm also not trying to be insulting, but I'm just pointing out that your logic is understandably a bit slanted towards your club. I don't think the Pearson issue is effecting our search for a new manager and if you drop your interest in Pearson he will go on Gardening Leave while the new manager takes the reigns. If Pearson resigns he will open himself up to legal action which as others have mentioned he appears reluctant to do. Meanwhile Leicester will have to begin their search again and they will be down to thier B list candidates. I would suggest your owners need to bite the bullet and pay the 1.2 million or you could end up with someone a lot worse than Pearson.
I don't expect that Pearson will ever publicly disclose his reasons for leaving, though I think we've got a pretty good idea. He didn't quite see eye to eye with old man Allam, as he can be rather difficult to deal with. In the past this wasn't too much of an issue, as he had Adam Pearson between him and Allam, but Pearson 2 recently bought Hull FC and as he doesn't see eye to eye with old man Allam either, I think he's nervous that Pearson 2 wouldn't be around forever. Oh, then there's **** loads more money, which probably was still the single biggest factor. And his replacement might well be McClaren, who might not please the fans of many clubs, but as he's local, a Hull City fan and was a decent club manager who got ****ed over at Forest, I think most of us will be quite happy.
I've not been slanted, in fact far from it as you and others can read on here. I agree your search for a new Manager won't be affected by these issues, but it would be ridiculous to suggest having a forced garden leave manager in the background wouldn't cause problems moving forward. Leicester currently have no one. Hull would be left with an unhappy Pearson and a new man. When looking at it without my supposed slant, I think it's fair of me to say it's hardly a desirable situation Hull would find themselves in. As for Leicester? If Top pulls us out of the Pearson running then it wouldn't be great. However, if, lets say, Billy Davies got a call from Top tomorrow morning, knowing he's plan "B", do you really think he'd turn down a job on up to £1,000,000 a year salary because they wanted Pearson first? That logic would also apply to Pearson as well, as we wanted Martin O'Neil first...
I don't think it really matters how happy Pearson is if he's tending his garden. Pearson's happiness only becomes an issue if we tried to keep him on as manager which is near enough impossible now.
It would sit better with me if Pearson had good reason to want to leave. Not the sort of stuff that would make your resign out of the blue, but enough to want out should a former employer come calling. McClaren will get berated by fox fans on here, but to be fair, he could work well for you. Problem is he clashed with the owner at the Florests and if your guy is awkward to deal with as well, would it be another bum move for him?
I totally agree, but this isn't my point. Hull's owners and fans might not give a flying Sh*& about Pearson's happiness, but him being around at all & unhappy is my point. This surely would be a distraction to the new Manager? Your local press who not let the matter go. Pearson grumbling wanting out, forced to stay and new manager hating the distractions....
As east-stand-tiger says Pearson's anger won't even be noticed if he's on gardening duty so that won't effect anything. I agree that Billy Davies would love the Leicester job but, if he was high on your owners list they would have gone to him before Pearson. So surely you have to agree that he would be a B list choice for Leicester.
