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Off Topic I didnt think MPs were so thick

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  1. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    This is important point in my opinion. It goes across other industries as well, where there is a cost of qualification is picked up by the tax payer. There should be some mechanism to claw some back if the benficiary ends up being another tax paying community.

    Not too sure if Labour / Lib Dems are still on the scrapping tuition fee side or not. But this would be a bigger challenge if Higher Ed was free to everyone.

    Out of interest is there still a concept of buying yourself out of the armed forces early? I have zero knowledge in that area but remember at some distant point you had to pay to get out of a servicd early?
     
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  2. young2077

    young2077 Well-Known Member

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    No, as long as you have done a minimum time (was 3 years when I was in) you could give a years notice and leave. When I left though they were even willing to forget the years notice.

    This is an armed forces that instituted redundancy only to realise they are seriously short of experience so started offering those people who took redundancy the opportunity to sign back up without having to go through any training and keep their redundancy pay and some trades were even offering golden handshakes.

    I could get into how poorly considered offering redundancy was!
     
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    rowley Well-Known Member

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    Interesting question. No idea mind, but someone here will know.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps he was on a break trying to work out a budget to pay his mortgage ....

    ... or looking at the artists impressions of Boris's forty new hospitals.

    I wonder where they'll find all the staff <doh>
     
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  5. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Looked like a skiving twat to me.
    There’s one here they could have <laugh>
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Quite a diagnosis in only fifteen minutes ....
     
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  7. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Aye, I’m good<ok>
     
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  8. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    I got out early. After 28 and a half years mind. Got fed up, started going to interviews, got offered a job and told them I was going regardless of whether they let me go or not (our trade was short of people, but that's their ****-up). They didn't have much choice. It was either go early or play the mental health card and see out my time on full pay doing nothing, which I had zero compunction about doing given the way I'd been treated. You just get to breaking point with an 'organisation'.
     
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  9. rowley

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    Right about organisations. I've escaped from two in my time. They grow too big and many in them, particularly those in the bureaucracy, see their sole function as protecting their own jobs.

    In a business this often leads to either a takeover and shakeout, or a slow decline into stasis and then going bust.

    I went for an operation around 1991. Bad knee. Turned up at hospital at around 6 o'clock at night. Get seen. Put in a ward. Doc turns up with assistant, talks to me, tells me it needs an op, schedules it for a week and a half later, which all happened.

    The doc made the decision. No hope of that now. First you must be sent for a scan, then a consultation , then a date in time for an op. Maybe. All controlled by a vast and increasing management structure.

    No wonder money is short. I know someone who works in this management at a reasonable level. Not an underling at all, but not near the . His wife , who loves to tell people, told me he is on near £60k a year. Plus expenses and terrific pension. Honestly, he is a knacker!
     
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  10. MrRAWhite

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    I think he is suggesting that Tories are lying self centred greedy bastards who put profit for the few above the wellbeing of the many.
     
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  11. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Chopped my finger went to Kendal, one nurse came and cleaned it, took my name, age, date of birth and address then left, another nurse came took my details again and asked if I needed any pain killers, another nurse came in, again took my details and then dressed it. Then another nurse came and asked if the other nurses had asked all these questions on the form she had and ticked them all. Two days later at Preston a porter came for me with a wheelchair, I said it’s ok I can walk, no, you must go in the wheelchair. He collected all my paper work takes me to surgery. The first thing the surgeon says is right let’s get this knee sorted for you.<doh>
     
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  12. Brainy Dose

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    I agree,they are,but they aren't the only ones.
     
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  13. safc-noggieland

    safc-noggieland Well-Known Member

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    But they are the ONLY ONES in power and in control of the purse strings. :angry:
     
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  14. Brainy Dose

    Brainy Dose Well-Known Member

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    Yes,only because of the dire incompetence of the opposition!
     
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    dansafcman Well-Known Member

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    Last time I was at Lancaster hospital (a few years ago mind), the nurses and doctors were great. Waiting times, and the fact my planned surgery was delayed several times due to emergencies was ****, but nothing wrong with the staff
     
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  16. dansafcman

    dansafcman Well-Known Member

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    This 100%.

    And who choses who the top management should be? Government.
    Who do they choose? The most competent or those whose daddy is their best mate ?

    I know a few people who work for the NHS, as IT consultants (free lance), they are paid 5 days a week but spend 3 of those waiting for the NHS management and staff to give them the data/information that need do the job they are paid for. If they work too fast, they get told to slow down by management.
     
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  17. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Went yesterday to Lancaster hospital, different department, excellent! I never said there was anything wrong with the staff they just don’t work what I would call hard.
     
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  18. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

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    Yep, Totally agree... When a leading MP comes out and cannot state what a woman is, then follows up with crap like "99.9% of women do not have a cock" it beggars belief. .
     
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  19. rowley

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    I havent worked that out, but at a guess he is saying that around 20,000 women are walking around the UK with a block and tackle appended.

    No one believes this of course. No one. And no one in a public position should be saying it. But he'll be saying something different tomorrow anyway, as will so many of them when the wind changes , and there is some other wild load of garbage pumped out that everyone is supposed to accept.
     
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  20. safc-noggieland

    safc-noggieland Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps it was the «dire incompetance» of a large part of the electorate.
    Surely a question that needs to be considered.
     
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