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Crime - part deux.

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Sucky, Oct 2, 2021.

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Should crime happen

  1. Go on then why not.

  2. Yes

  3. Stfu sucky

  4. Tobes and peej welch couple

  5. Suck Roy's tits

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  1. duggie2000

    duggie2000 Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully they will be made accessible to some lifers with nothing to lose and they suffer at least as much as that baby did

    The Social Services responsible should spend the rest of their useless lives in a 2m x 2m prison cell with no windows and a bucket in the corner
     
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  2. Solid Air 2

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    Social Workers are an easy target but in this case they were over ruled by a court order
     
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  3. brb

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    From what I understand, it occurred while no visitors were allowed due to covid rules. The initial assessment was fine at the time, but then things escalated when lock-down occurred. Problem is we are only realising now, the consequences of such strict lock-downs - I'm assuming as that's all I can do, that no social services were working during this period, unless anyone knows different.
     
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  4. duggie2000

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    They recommended the baby was returned to them from loving and caring foster parents even tho the baby was fostered in the first place because they were drug addicts living in ****

    There have been many, many cases in recent years of the same sort of circumstances where the babies have died from abuse

    PLEASE dont make excuses for these useless individuals
     
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  5. brb

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    Mate don't talk to me about making excuses, it's easy to attach blame when you don't know the circumstances, it's as much EVERYONE's responsibility not just that of governmental or health workers, we ALL have a responsibility to look after kids. I get people are upset, but we all know how underfunded the services are and we also know we were all locked down, I'm repeating some of what was said, I didn't just make it up, it was during lockdown.
     
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  6. duggie2000

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    My point was it has happened so many times over many years that it WAS NOT due to lockdown or the aftermath of lockdown
     
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  7. brb

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    I get your point mate, but what about neighbours, did they have their eyes closed to it, what about family, did they have any, why didn't none of these people help out. Probably because the circumstances were that abuse could be carried out, if no one was allowed out. If you remember we were paying furlough so everyone could sit at home doing nothing.
     
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  8. duggie2000

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    BRB the neighbours told Social Services what was happening when they could not get access

    And it has happened far too many times the past
     
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    I think what we demonstrate is we are all pissed off about it, and want answers. Because to most of us, we cannot imagine how something like this can happen.
     
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  10. BobbyD

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    Of course its going to happen. People make mistakes all the time and sometimes people are incompetent. I don't know how many social services there are (tens of thousands?) So that's probably hundreds of thousands of cases so a few bad calls and a **** show of some humans and this is the outcome. Just as we have had x amount of terrorist acts in the UK in not going to start castigating our intelligence agency of being useless and letting things get away if it happens.

    **** happens
     
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    I'm a DSL and I've attended literally hundreds of core group multi agency meetings on CP cases. All I can say is there have been instances where the police and social services have been watertight in what they've done, and other cases where I've been left scratching my head why more wasn't done.

    In one case (CIN with social services involved), single mum of a 6 yr old, she was diagnosed with ADHD, quick to lose her rag, proper chav, smelt of cannibis everytime she dropped off or picked up her son. He would regularly be unwashed, his clothes were unkempt, mum moving from home to home. Kept red flagging it but it was never escalated. Ed Psych and I even wrote to SS worker stating we had serious concerns about neglect and the risk to the boy.

    Another case, a dad caught looking up child porn on his home computer. CP case. Technically it could be said he posed no threat to his own kids but he was immediately ordered to have no unsupervised contact with them. So he moved out. Weird thing was the mum, his gf, who would continually make excuses for him and put pressure on the social worker in meetings for him to be allowed home. Cops and SW were having none of it and they became even tighter, stopped her from having any communication with him e.g. via phone etc. She had to go through the SW for everything. Her parents would grass her up if they caught her trying to get in touch. The other surreal thing was sitting in those meetings and watching this bloke talking with no remorse or any care at all, like we were all down the pub or something - very weird.

    In my experience there's no consistency and it really is down to how stretched services are. Cases run for years. Often social workers change mid case bcos they leave the profession or move local authority. New SW takes over and all that familiarity, those incidental things a SW picks up between them and the adult are lost as the new person taking over comes in. But every one I've worked with has done their best, under difficult circumstances, in a system which is largely understaffed and where they are over worked.
     
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  12. Sucky

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    Off with his head<laugh>
     
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    The panel found former Sgt Thomas, the most senior-ranking officer in the WhatsApp group, appeared to have been "one of the most active participants".

    He mocked Mr Price's weight and called Officer A "ugly". He also joked he should name his dog "Auschwitz" or "Adolf", or "Fred" or "Ian" after "my two favourite child sex killers", the hearing was told.

    Favourite child sex killer bantz:bandit:
     
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    Looking for a vigilante group to join near my ends...well up for it...a few baseball bats to some heads...these ****s are best off as cabbages or dead.

    Sick of the stabby sons of bitches

    Pigs are useless oinks too the rapey bastards...unless you owe a fine or you're dead already
     
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    My fuking lord. <doh>

    Stop watching that **** man <laugh>
     
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    Fk I forgot twitter is the truth <laugh>….I know most need 30 seconds of information to make minds up these days……I’m not in that number
     
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