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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Any second now, The FA will fine him because somebody else didn't tap in with their Oyster

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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    That’s a bit steep, lol.

    Fat Frank is a woeful manager and it seems his interim spell back at a club he was sacked from just a couple years back is purely a sentimental decision and sentimental decisions largely don’t work out.

    Rodgers on the other hand has shown he’s a capable manager and also plays a brand of football fans would largely enjoy, this has been the case at Swansea, Celtic and Leicester (until recently). He’s been dealt a bit of a **** hand at Leicester the last year or two, they’ve sold key players whose sales had to cover the club’s overspending of previous years and their inability to bring in adequate replacements has seen them nosedive, that’s also not taking into account that for a period their injury list was ridiculous. He obviously has to take a portion of the blame, as every manager does but I do think if given sufficient backing he’s a decent manager, albeit a pretty big dickhead.

    It’s whether some fans would be willing to take the rough with the smooth with him, I probably would (albeit not my first choice) but as you can see, RCL absolutely wouldn’t <laugh>
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    apart from schmeichel and fofana (who was out for most of last season anyway?) who have they really sold? Chilwel in 20/21, no one of note in 21/22.

    The same squad that he nearly got top 4 (and bottled twice). Yea he's had a few injuries but how can you take that team and relegate them. Most of his key players have stayed fit most of the season (mainly defensive injuries?) but even then they aren't scoring many i believe.

    Swansea he was okay, Liverpool he nearly did brilliant and then showed how bad he was without a star striker, celtic i won't count as every manager is world class there (and no rangers back then) and this leicester side, he does what he does well, start off good and tales off and cannot rebuild.

    Please take him so i can have a good laugh as its not been great watching my side
     
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  4. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    is he a dickhead though?

    just gets on with it from what I’ve mostly seen of him

    RCL on the other hand…
     
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  5. Citizen Kane.

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    Totally agree. His FA cup win was impressive but a broad sweep of most of his time at PL clubs shows a manager who for some reason bottles things at the last moment. The defeat to you followed by that ridiculous draw to Palace having been 3-0 up with barely 10mins to play has to be seen as deeply concerning, especially given his bottle jobs at Leicester - blowing 4th place twice in a row on the last day of the season, the first being at home to us of all teams and having been inside the top 4 for literally the entire season until matchday 37.

    There is definitely a mentality issue there that may or may not stem from the fact that he comes across as a massive narcissist, but I'd be petrified taking a manager like him with our track record of finding a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    He was absolutely scathing about Levy in an interview back in 2012 at a time he was reflecting on swerving us to join Liverpool after we sacked Harry.

    Tbh his criticism seemed harsh at the time but with hindsight, everything he said was pretty much spot on. I'd be staggered if he's changed his opinion on our chairman since then. If anything, the issues he described have only gotten worse.
     
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  7. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Losing Schmeichel and Fofana and not adequately replacing them, then having three of your first choice back four injured for most of the season is gonna cripple any side. Danny Ward in particular has to be one of, if not the worst keeper in the league, when you’ve got a secondary defence in front of him then no manager is doing anything with that. At the other end Vardy’s no longer the goal scorer he used to be and Daka/ Kelechi combined can’t score enough.

    Barnes and Maddison have been the only legit key players who’ve remained fit for most of the season. I think Tielemans is due to miss the remainder of the games.

    Some managers seem to struggle rebuilding the sides they once built. Poch did with us, Klopp currently doing so with Pool and Rodgers couldn’t with Leicester, though he never really had the funds to do so. Some managers are smart enough to get out before the rebuild is required though, I have a feeling Ancelotti’s next to do that, excellent manager but probably don’t fancy being the one tasked with replacing Modric, Kroos, Benzema, Carvajal etc over the next year or two and that’s why he might not be staying on for next season.
     
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  8. BobbyD

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    Yeah theres struggling then theres being the 2nd worse side in the league after 30 games.

    This includes sides like Forest, Bournemouth, Everton, Leeds, Wolves. That's some absolute ****e right there.

    He's persisted with ward for ages, if you can tell he's ****e why hasn't he put iversen in.

    I don't know who is involved with transfers but they bought souter and faes and he's persisted with those two even though the like of soyuncu (whos fallen off but looked good a few seasons back) and vestergaard are fit and available.
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Most of those sides probably aren’t missing three of their first choice back four though, nor essentially playing a reserve keeper, most of those actually have a decent keeper come to think of it. No idea about the Iversen decision but I’ve never seen him play so can’t really comment though you’d imagine he can’t be any worse. That’s definitely something Rodgers can take blame for though, as I said he ain’t blameless but I do think he’s been dealt a **** hand.

    I think Soyuncu has fallen out with Rodgers/ the club, pretty sure he’s agreed a pre-contract with Atleti so might be related to that as to why he ain’t playing. Between a choice of Vestegaard, Souttar and Faes, it’s like trying to pick out which **** stinks the least.
     
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  10. BobbyD

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    yeah but souttar and faes are his buys and the GK he didnt invest in.

    You probably couldn't name the leeds, bournemouth, forest back 4 cause they are all ****e as well as well as not really having proper attacks either. The mans even behind everton who have had fat frank in charge for most of the season!

    All those bottom sides are hardly being managed by ancelotti either. The fact we are even having a debate between them lot and their squads/manager and rodgers tells a story in itself. Saying that you guys have fallen off quite far so i understand why you might be interested in rodgers :p
     
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  11. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    We haven't had a manager last 1 entire season in the last 4. Every one that's started a season has failed to finish it.

    Just picking a manager who deserves to start consecutive seasons will an improvement. <wah>
     
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  12. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Are they his buys or are they all he could get? I’m pretty sure most managers wouldn’t actively select to buy those two players. It’d be like saying Jose signed Joe Rodon for us when everyone knew he wanted Skriniar.

    I probably can’t but then start of the season I doubt many knew who Leicester’s reserve back four were. If Evans, Pereira and Justin didn’t all miss about 90% of the season I don’t think they’d be as ****ed as they are, probably wouldn’t be miles better off but highly doubt they’d be bottom three.

    None of those managers/ sides won an FA Cup in recent years or got two top five finishes either though. It’s a car crash of a season for Leicester this year but I don’t think it’s a true reflection of Rodgers as a manager.

    Careful what you say, or Brother Boehly might just give Fat Frank the gig full time - and scarily that wouldn’t even be the craziest decision he’s made as Chelsea chairman either! Lol.
     
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  13. BobbyD

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    yeah i was chatting to a mate about it. He summed it up perfectly, just as i didn't think todd could be any more dumb after lucky dipping prices for players, he goes and sacks harry potter and employs fat frank, ironically another manager who got sacked from a relegation candidate. I think you're right, Levy might try to outdo Todd and bring the bodgers
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Our annual “who finishes higher” bet could be a juicy one next season if Fat Frank gets the job full time and we hire Miss Brenda <laugh>
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    If Paratici has left in disgrace in April and Munn doesn't start until July, would I be right in expecting that Daniel will be making some choices this summer, before disappearing into the background...

    ...or will we wait until Munn turns up to appoint a coach and DoF

    ...or will Ryan Mason be filling in?

    Personally, I'm for letting Mason have a crack at making the appointments...or doing one or both of the jobs...**** it, it can't be worse than appointing Nuno.
     
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    Kick a man when he's down
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Carlo Ancelotti is really digging his heels in and saying he won't be leaving Los Ladrones before his contract expires next year

    Somebody on our shortlist is going to cave...
     
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