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Which side will drop out of the top 6?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Darth Plagueis, Apr 13, 2023.

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Which side will drop out of top 6?

Poll closed Jul 13, 2023.
  1. Chelsea

    4 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Liverpool

    3 vote(s)
    18.8%
  3. Spurs

    9 vote(s)
    56.3%
  4. United

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    To clarify, I mean drop out of the top 6 long term
    I doubt any other side will. Will Chelsea continue into decline or buy their way back up?

    Are spurs basically one more bad season away from losing Kane and being bang average?
     
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  2. FadgewackeR

    FadgewackeR Well-Known Member

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    If it's anyone, it'll be Spurs initially - Kane will go this year.
    Liverpool - could easily happen if Horse Teeth throws his dentures at the ceiling...
    Chelsea will be back top 6 but maybe not CL next year.

    Hate to say it, but it could well be us - I don't think it's going to be easy to just roll into the CL every year and we'll (probably) be playing a good few more games, so the squad will be tested and we can't spunk a tonne on loads of signings due to FFP and particularly wages to turnover %... Might yo-yo a bit before we settle at the top.
     
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  3. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    Poll up
     
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  4. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I've gone with Liverpool because spurs might still get top 4 this season.
     
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  5. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Odd question, do you mean this season or going forward?

    This season - Chelsea definitely, Spurs likely, Liverpool maybe

    Going forward - Spurs unless they turn around things dramatically, and Chelsea if can't control this mess. Liverpool will come back.
     
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  6. Maximin Effort

    Maximin Effort Well-Known Member

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    Chelsea will definitely be back. They are losing a lot of games at the moment but they also have so many shots on goal that a decent goalscorer would have them right up there this season.
     
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  7. ToonArmy1892

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    It will be Spurs long term, and maybe Liverpool.

    In about 5 years us and Man City will be the big 2, Chelsea Arsenal and Man Utd will be competing for 3rd and 4th.
     
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  8. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Looking fwd to hearing things like

    1. The games gone tears
    2. What's the point tears
    3. Im going to support my local non league side tears
    4. Newcastle were nothing before the oil money tears .
     
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  9. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    Going forward, not this season specifically.
     
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  10. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    It's not necessarily set in stone what the long term top 6 is, going back to 2007 time, Everton, Villa and Bolton were regularly in the top 6.

    Man City came in around 2010 and obviously ain't leaving....around that point Everton dropped away post Moyes and have been nowhere near since.

    I think Arsenal may have some second season syndrome post challenging for the title, and not be as strong next year, but style possibly top, Chelsea? Who ****ing knows, total mess. Spurs are always thereabouts but never challenging.

    Unless Liverpool really get back on track, I could see the top 6 finish something like this next season if we keep strengthening

    1. City
    2. Newcastle
    3. Liverpool
    4. Man U
    5. Arsenal
    6. Spurs

    Optimistic, but hardly wildly so.
     
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  11. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Dippers. It’s not there year for the next decade.
     
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  12. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    You reckon Arsenal will go that low?
     
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  13. Toonitus

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    Clubs will go up and down in the table newcastle included.
     
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  14. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    I do tbh, I think this was a very weak Prem that they've taken advantage of, if they win it, then awesome, but I don't think they'll sustain it next year.

    Lack of squad depth (if Partey gets injured they're fecked), and the fact they're not used to maintaining these standards.

    Since Wenger left they've been nothing, so this season is a huge surprise, maybe they'll stay top 4 next season, but I don't see them challenging again next year.
     
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  15. JakartaToon

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    It will become a top 7.
     
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  16. Charlie Dogscock

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    Our task is more straight forward that most though, ie just improve the very good first team and phase out fringe players.

    Looking at the job facing the other teams:
    Chelsea - clear out some of the ridiculous **** tonne of players they've got, desperately try to establish what their first team is, try to get the players to play like they know each other and bring in a new manager....good luck!
    Spurs - Kane likely to leave and leave a huge and irreplaceable gap, and even if he doesn't the team is a mangled manageress mess.
    Liverpool - address the huge problems in midfield and try to make a brand new team now the team of 4 years or so ago is now officially finished.
    Arsenal - huge task of trying to keep up the standards of this season, especially with the champions league games next season
    Man U - team is horrific without Casemiro and needs strengthening

    So apart from City, it looks like we have the most straightforward journey ahead.
     
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  17. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Nah, never.

    Any team who claims to finish in the top 7 is always the one that's finished 7th. The top 6 want nothing to do with the cling-on in 7th place.
     
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  18. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    What I meant by that was that those seven will alternate. I don’t think any team among them will dominate as I think that FFP will be much more strictly enforced now.
     
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  19. Charlie Dogscock

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    One of the 7 will always have an off season, like previously when the likes of Leicester, West Ham, etc got into the top 6. Thus I don't see it as those teams in top 7 places every season.

    I think City will dominate for the foreseeable, can't see that changing. Chelsea new owners appear to have started with a huge howler and need to sort it out before it gets even worse, Liverpool need to change rapidly and build a new team quick, Man U are improved under Tem Hag but still not all that, Spurs are an utter mess, and Arsenal will struggle to keep us these standards....right now, I see next season as a huge opportunity for us, City way above us yes, but not the others.
     
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  20. Maximin Effort

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    I could very easily apply this reasoning to us instead. Whichever European football we get will put a strain on the squad and we still don't know what our spending power will be to bolster it
     
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