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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th April)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Apr 11, 2023.

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If an offer of £20m came in for Rutter, would you accept it?

  1. Yes

    45.5%
  2. No

    54.5%
  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Lots of clickbait around paying £24.5m in wages to big Kev yet not one mention of him ever taking home £78kper week. The tax man in the UK would have taken almost £12m in PAYE and they would be chasing the club if we paid him this cash and they got none of it. Also why would we pay him almost double what he would have earned.

    Journalists please fook off until you know the facts, done your research and gave us a factual account instead of made up shyt
     
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    I like it if true at least someone cared. Thing is it must have been handbags because both took the field second half.
     
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    yeh, disappointing lack of claret on show

    can’t play, can’t fight :bandit:
     
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  5. Jammy 07

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    So a dressing room full of players, coaches and data performance staff had to call in security because two players were arguing. Do we employ them full time at TA as well just in case the handbags come out during the week ?

    Absolute tosh.
     
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    Believe it was that bad, that our American co owners insisted that these guys be sent in to sort it out

    please log in to view this image
     
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    It could well be
     
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    In a psychological experiment it was determined that the happiest person in the room was also the dumbest.
     
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  9. Jammy 07

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    And how did you feel about that ?

    Especially as Eire was with you <laugh>
     
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    Bamford
    Reportedly out injured for Liverpool game. Concussion from heading his goal
     
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    Never mind he can still play his instrument.
     
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    Now if started with a T it would aptly describe our midfield and back five.
     
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    T.S.W.A.T???
     
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    It was mentioned on talkSPORT by Kevin Hatchard their European football expert. His take on it was we signed with an obligation to buy if we were promoted at the end of the season. Leeds argued that his contract ended 30th June and we weren’t promoted until the end of July so technically he was not a Leeds player when promoted. FIFA ruled against us as they gave a blanket roll on of all contracts because of the football shut down to every club. We had agreed a 5 year contract with Augustin, which included his rise for us being in the premier league (reportedly 90K a week) and we are being told we have to pay that in full of his five years owed. Hatchard said Leeds made two mistakes, the main one being the obligation to buy rather than an “option” to buy that most clubs do but also most clubs even with the obligation to buy would stipulate the player would have to play a certain amount of games. So for that oversight we are in breach of his contract, which will now cost us millions (whatever that final figure is) for the 49 minutes he actually spent on the pitch with us. None of this would have mattered if we had even bothered to put in a clause stating we would only have to buy if he played 10 games, by which time we’d have known we’d been sold a pup. Got to say it’s rank poor work from our DOF.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Absolutely amateur if all this is true.
     
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    No reason to believe he’s not correct. I don’t know if the wages figure is accurate but I thought our own published accounts show we have already payed up RB for the transfer fee. And there’s no doubt we have been found in breach of contract to JKA. Hatchard was pointing out the two mechanisms that would have stopped the club losing so much money in the deal.
     
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    Someone needs to tell that Orta fellow what a pig in a poke is
     
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    But hey we have the appropriate clauses in the mckennie deal… so just a little £50m lesson.

    Seriously it’s easy from the outside… the selling club has to agree to all these clauses and they may have said fck off.

    The red flag to me, at the time, was he wasn’t playing for his parent club, and they loaned him out. Then he wasn’t getting regular game time for the loan club. They had to agree to cut his loan short… which they seemed happy to do. So his last 2 clubs didn’t want him… that should have been enough to insist on some safety clauses.

    I guess the feeling was that we’d blown one promotion and we were desperate for further fire power to make sure we didn’t blow another. If the terms weren’t perfect, hey - so what - we have the premier league money to compensate. So we were seduced by the glamour of the name, panicked and bought a lemon.

    Anyone who ever bought a TVR knows how it feels.
     
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    So you kind of answered your own question. From your example there was some agreement in place for his original deal to be cut short. And it’s hardly “negotiation” if one club says fck off and the other says okay we’ll just take him with no safeguards in place, isn’t that why the DOF is paid millions? Oh and how the **** did he pass the medical? Did Forshaw’s GP do the bloody thing?
     
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