BTW, motd2 that's just in passing cos the "had to" Also repeat the lie robbo touched him first. The clips are crystal he doesn't. The narrative is set. Lino was man handled and defended himself. Next we will hear about online death threats etc etc. It'll end up with a charge for Robertson 100%
Wasn't his man. Virgil is standing in the middle ball-watching. If you expect your LB to play CB you're in trouble - the most he could have done was barge him in the back. The problem is the system when Trent goes walkabout and everyone gets dragged across to the right. You can see Robbo looking behind him to see where Saka is and doesn't know where to go for the best. It happened several times in the match, where he's trying to play Virgil's position and his own.
"All we can say is that I've worked with him and he's a great guy, so Andy Robertson must be a ****. But it's up to the PGMOL if they want to believe that **** over the word of a great guy who is one of their own, especially if they speak to him straight away after he's had a shower. Did I say he's a great guy?". 'Kin hell.
As said, the narrative on social media is that Robbo ran up from behind, grabbed him around the neck in a choke hold, gouged out his eyes, ripped out his tongue then made him watch through his cavernous, bloodied eye-sockets as Robbo slaughtered his family and drunk their blood in front of him. And all he then did was to flick out his little finger in a reflex action as he was losing consciousness and accidentally catch Robbo on his shirt sleeve. And that is the final finding of the FA Panel. M'lud.
Virgil was totally at fault for the second goal. There was only one man in the box to mark - and he lost him. Virgil has plenty of credit in the bank for what he's done since he came to this club - he deserves a statue. But he's rapidly becoming a statue in most games.
Robertson won’t be suspended what you on about? Shoukd have a conversation. I’d hope Robbo will say something like look I went to talk to him, I touched him on the arm (if he did and hard to actually tell what happened but didn’t look aggressive) and guy moved his arm and hit me. Don’t wanna make a huge deal of it now. Lino gets a weeks break or something and then we all move on. I think he has just thrown his arm up as a ‘get away’ motion and just caught Robbo. Looks bad, not great for lino but don’t think it’s a deliberate I’m gonna elbow you thing. Only he’ll know for sure though
As I said Bisc, that's not the story according to social media, and that's what I was talking about. That and the track record of Howard Webb.
Greetings from the Toon. Thought I’d pop across and see what the Pool take on the Robertson v Lino incident was. For me to call it an ‘elbow’ is stretching it a bit. Agree with the Biscuit that it was more a ‘shrug’ as in ‘get off me’ type reaction. Robertson shouldn’t have been getting that close to the Lino anyway nor approaching him in the manner that, to me, he seemed to be but also fully accept it happens in every game several times, at least. Nor should Robertson have started bleating on like a 5yo about the contact to his ‘neck’ although he seemed to be gesturing that he had been caught in the jaw ?? But, at least, small mercies he didn’t fall to the ground in a ‘Kane’esq’ type of reaction. The ultimate crux for me though is that too many prima donnas, sorry footballers’, appear to believe it’s perfectly okay to act in a manner that is totally unacceptable, namely berating the Officials, and that has to be stopped for the good of the game. Not saying Robertson behaved anywhere near as badly as Mitrovic but it’s just another example of unacceptable behavior. Why was he going towards the Lino shouting in any event? For me nothing should happen to the Lino. He didn’t hit Robertson nor did he try and strike Robertson. It’s not as though he ‘elbowed’ him with any attempt at ‘assaulting’ Robertson. He simply appeared to be trying to shrug Robertson off him. Nothing to happen to Robertson, this time as what he was doing currently happens all the time eg some over entitled, indisciplined prima donna shouting in the face of an Official. What should happen is for the P League or/and FA to state that only the Captain and player involved in any incident can approach an Official in a proper and civilised manner to query a decision or else it’s an automatic yellow card. Overly aggressive approaches would merit an automatic red card.
There is plenty of talk about it on here if you track back. Reality is, the moment as passed and means very little to us now.
Looking at the video, it looks like the linesman lifting his elbow towards Robertson’s chest or face in a reflex type of action. To call that act “elbowing the player in the throat” is really an exaggeration. Rescind the card to Robertson as he’s not the guilty party and suspend the linesman for a game or two for reacting.
19 It's a poor showing from everyone involved to be Frank. Robertson shouldn't be screaming at him, the linesman shouldn't be reacting. However I can understand both parties. Some of the standard of refereeing is absolutely infuriating. It's unbelievable that they get to watch a replay from multiple angles, multiple times and they can still get in wrong. Every team surrounds the ref, because everyteam surrounds the ref. You don't get a prize for being nice. It could be easily stamped out, but it would require a bit if bravery and actual action from the refs and there not the best at that.
i expect a defender to go deal with the greatest danger he sees. he can see vvd going near, he can see Jesus and he was in line when the run started. the rcb is out in rb slot. the lb ought to come in in that scenario.
I didn't watch the game so haven't got much to say except that maybe Salah needs a break from taking penalties and I watched several videos of the elbow incident just to see what had actually happened. I disagree with the bolded bit. I've viewed it from several angles and it was an uncalled for, aggressive move by the linesman. I'd say he doesn't have a leg to stand on in any review but we all know how these things go. The officials are asbestos.
Ignoring the attacker, VVD actually did the right thing by covering the front post area (what you're actually taught to do as a defender). If VVD had gone to Jesus who then darted in front to poach a goal at the near post, you'd all be slaughtering VVD in that scenario too. Basically, VVD needs to win the ball or get battered. I think VVD was expecting Robbo to come and cover and / or Alisson to come and help out. Robbo couldn't get there on time (and would have been blamed had it gone to Saka), the cross wasn't close enough for Alisson and it was actually a very good bloody cross too. Reality is, it's the fault of the system dragging out players all over the place rather than one individual being expected to cover multiple positions.
Like I asked earlier, what could Robbo reasonably do when coming at him from behind? If he'd been closer, and the ball had gone to Saka instead then he'd be slagged off for not marking his man. It's all too easy with the benefit of hindsight to say what players should have done. As I said, the main problem is a back line stretched out and run ragged by the big ****ing hole at RB all the time.
I tend to agree with Bisc that it could have been a reflexive "get off" sort of movement. At least I think that would be the lino's defence, and I'll be surprised if he gets more than a token censure for it.
