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Jack Diamond

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Daz, Mar 30, 2023.

  1. Oliver's Army

    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

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  2. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    He looks like a rather dashing but untrustworthy spiv
     
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  3. Downeys Loup

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    KLD has the family lawyer on the board if I remember correctly so this will at least be handled by the book. Even if it’s a not guilty I can’t see his contract being renewed and would be justifiable as he’s nowhere near first team.
     
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    Last September The Scottish Government said that it would be introducing a bill to abolish the 'Not Proven' verdict in its courts.
     
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  5. The Exile II

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    Not Proven is basically we know you did it.

    And I can't see it going any time soon bearing in mind who Police Scotland are likely to come knocking for in the near future.
     
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  6. Brainy Dose

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    Christ,hope they're not coming for me after that incident in Dumfries a while ago. Definately not proven.....I didn't know she was married and not my fault her husband fell awkwardly and broke his arm.:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  7. Sunderpitt

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    Quite rightly accusations of the awful assaults of rape and sexual abuse need to be taken seriously and a police investigation take place.

    However the conviction rate for these crimes is abysmal... around 1 or 2 % iirc.

    I guess its a she said, he said?

    A few years back some women staff at the golf club, brought a 'handsie' charge against a prominent member... he was ex durham police and strangely enough durham police found no case against him.
     
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  8. Row 3

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    I did jury service in January and one of the cases I was put on was rape and sexual assault. In this case the rape charge was Incredibly hard to prove, it was a woman accusing her then husband of raping her 6 years ago. He said it was consensual, she said it wasn't, but they remained married for several years (happily so they both said) and the allegation was only made when a custody dispute started over the kids. He was found not guilty on that charge.
    The sexual assault charge just showed to me how odd the law can be. He basically stuck his finger up her arse when she was passed out drunk on the kitchen floor, sniffed his fingers and said to her mate "look she ****ing stinks". There was a witness so it was pretty obvious he did it, but in his directions the judge told us that if we thought he did it to humiliate his wife, and not for sexual gratification, then we must find him not guilty. Not guilty it was.
     
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  9. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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    Was a funny handshake involved there,I wonder? :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    I can't think of much worse than being accused of sex crimes if untrue, second only to murder in my book.
     
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  12. Row 3

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    Bloke next to me went into a fit of giggles, had to pretend he was coughing. The defendant was also asked about windmilling and asked if he knew what that was. When he replied "Aye waving yer cock aroond" there was a round of audible tittering in the court <laugh>
     
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  13. Sunderpitt

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    Just as Johnson's sexual abuse of a minor, proved a huge distraction for the players, club and fans... I fear the same with Diamond (although atm we do know what the actual charges are).
    There has been a couple of good stories about the, fans CPR, and Ballard earphones.

    But this latest siht story just means the players, club and fans will take a lot of abuse. I wonder if we will hear any chants tonight.

    At least the powers at the club are taking swift action, unlike last time.
     
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  14. smithy in nl

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    The fact he’s hardly played any first team games and hasn’t been at the club for a while I can’t see how anyone would be flinging **** at Sunderland tbf!

    that and the fact he wasn’t a very good player anyways. Obvs the scum will have there say because there obsessed with us.
     
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  15. Sunderpitt

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    All the media pictures show him wearing a Sunderland shirt.

    I guess what makes me a bit more pizzed off is that I liked the two players before there fall from grace.
     
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    Sounds like a lovely household <doh>

    I'd lock them all up tbh ...

    ... the woman's smashed out of her face lying on the kitchen floor, the husband is fingering her dirty arse and the friend is sitting there watching this horror show.

    Absolutely dreadful waste of taxpayers money allowing wasters like these to go to court.
     
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  17. Row 3

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    Don't disagree.

    In my two weeks I sat on two trials, the second was a particularly brutal domestic abuse case. In both cases the central theme was alcohol dependency which doesn't excuse anything but opened my eyes.
     
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    My jury service, sat on one trial. Possession with intent to supply, bloke had pleaded guilty to possession but was on trial for possession with intent.

    As it started and I heard the two barristers telling us what the evidence was going to show I was thinking going to find this bloke guilty. He had a decent amount of crack on him when lifted.

    Then as I sat through the trial the police had been lazy and had not bothered gathering obvious evidence or asking him obvious things in interview which the defence then used it to build doubt. We found him not guilty and it still pisses me off as I argued strongly that he wasn't guilty as it wasn't beyond reasonable doubt and that's what the law requires but I was 99% sure he was dealing!
     
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  19. Sunderpitt

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    The police never lie or cock-up always believe them and send the accused down...

    Or...
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    I just noticed that on RTG the weird Mod, Pancho, has jumped in to slap wrists and deny people the chance to discuss this subject. Even stranger, dozens are queuing up for their punishment and 'liking' the post <laugh>

    Surely it's the perfect opportunity to do what the police do at matches, let the hooligans kick off, film them and issue bans. Most posting idiotic comments would be the Mags and Wums who plague the place and ruin thread after thread.

    But, of course, that would take some gumption and he'd have to actually do some work for a change instead of acting out his infantile grudges and licking the arses of his little clique of fellow weirdos.
     
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