I'd get back to University then mate because that's pretty much a given in scientific terms. I mean I could explain it but its far better to give you an article or two from a guy with the credentials like you always crave. He is just one of thousands and thousands of scientists worldwide who are convinced its a lab leak. It is also categorically false to suggest it would be traceable. Quite the opposite is true, the below article also explains why. So unless you are suggesting all these scientists worldwide are making things up for some bizarre reason, you should stop spreading misinformation https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184 https://oversight.house.gov/wp-cont...red-Remarks-26-June-2021-12-230-EST-FINAL.pdf At best any other theory is on seriously shakey ground. Even if you just look at the basics of it starting in Wuhan where there just happens to be a institute for virology where they are performing gain of function research into coronaviruses. Common sense would tell you to suspect the worst. Only a moron could believe the chances of a wet market theory FFS Don't worry though its all coming out now mate. I won't lie, all these people suffering vaccine harm, I do feel a bit "I did tell you so". But unlike the pro vaxxers I don't actually like to see people harmed just because they didn't agree with me. I see the legal challenges are starting and its hit the mainstream news now. Remember when BBC would only tell you this was all just conspiracy nuts? Gotta say I feel 100% justified in my decisions now. No vaccine, so no possible potential for harm. Have a natural immunity from getting and recovering from the virus which is now widely accepted to be better than any vaccine induced immunity (https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2101/rr-0). My situation is undeniably the strongest position to be in. Hopefully people will learn from this and learn not to trust a government and their 'chosen' scientists and controlled media coverage.
You seriously need to get a life. You’ve spent the last 6 weeks or so to respond. You must have more important things to be doing. You can have whatever view you want because I don’t care. There is no black and white answer. A lot of people are speculating and trying, like you, to claim that they know the answer. The truth is very few people actually know. But you obviously have the inside track as evidenced by the attempted put downs of any others who don’t agree with you. As with anything I will keep an open mind but for now I’ll stick with the majority of scientists view until they change their stance as I am more inclined to listen to them than you as they have more experience and expertise in this area in contrast to you. But seriously, do get a life.
I totally respect your choice Pouchy and I know many others who refused to vaccinate. However, I also had a friend from work who refused to vaccinate. He was in his 40s, was very active and kept himself very fit. Therefore felt he didn't need it. He caught Covid (back when it was more lethal) and after an horrific 4 month battle, he sadly lost his life, leaving behind a wife and 2 young children. He had no other underlying health issues. So yes, not vaccinating might make you feel better. But vaccinating also could have prevented an unnecessary death. So to say vaccinating was wrong may also be misleading. It's a pure gamble.
I don’t think the Chinese creater covid. But believe they harvested it. Tested it on discover. And lost control of it.
There always feels like there is an alternate agenda to everything, like big pharma used covid to make loads of money from vaccines. Since when did governments actually care about the health of the public? I simply don't trust anything government or media say, they have proved time and time again they aren't trustworthy. That's why i didn't get the vaccine.
I hope you all made sure your kids got their shots, don't want ****ing polio coming back or something cos a bunch of drunken football idiots didn't believe in a vaccine.
I hope no one here get's their food from a supermarket, or store in general. You never know what has been put into everything, not to mention, would you trust a conglomerate to store and look after the things you eat? Then all conglomerates follow the food standards set by the British government, and would you trust the British government to care about your health? What about farms, farms are monitored by the British government, strict regulation controls every single aspect of farming. From the food the animals eat, to the way the animals are killed and their meat stored. Would you really trust the government, nay, any government to look after the food you put into your body on a daily basis? I hope everyone here, grows only their own vegetables, looks over their own livestock, crafts their own beers the government wants you DEAD.
A vaccine denier who used this forum died of COVID. He was all over the Gnneral board calling anyone who got the vaccine a ****ing idiot, mind controlled, puppet, yadayada. I think he vanished and then a news article broke "Facebook vaccine denier dies of Covid." Low and behold, it was our very own Hoddle is a God.
I lost a very good friend to it. He refused to vaccinate. He was mid 30's, without doubt out of shape and had pushed the limits over the years, but a fantastic lad, life and soul, incredible musician and left 2 kids, and a pregnant wife behind. Had he been vaccinated, he'd very likely still be with us. Each to their own, but we protected our kids though it as best possible and the storm seems to have been mainly ridden out. I respect other people's decisions not to vaccinate, but don't regret getting vaccinated myself at all.
Forgot I even was vaccinated tbh, I have no idea what the apparent side effects are that everyone who isn't vaccinated is constantly going on about.
A sore arm if you sleep on it during the night and want to cry like you’re a soft fanny. No worse than a tetanus or flu vaccination
