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  1. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Any lads or lasses on here any good with employment law? I’ve been ****ed over by a company, after one year, and I’m wondering what my options are.

    Thanks all.
     
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    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    I know nothing but even if I did I would surely need more details unless you were truly ****ed??
     
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  3. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    After only 1 year, you dont have many options, suppose it all depends on why said company terminated your employment ?
     
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  4. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    More details bitch
     
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  5. brb

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    Going by your initial presentation, I'd fooking sack yer for sure and you haven't be employed for more than two years, so your rights are nil.
     
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  6. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Basically someone anonymous has claimed a conversation with me at a recent event abroad made them feel “uncomfortable”. What’s odd about that is I was mainly with my girlfriend the entire time, so I can’t even begin to think what they’re talking about. All day/week everyone has been carrying on as normal. I’m even being “connected” by top level people on LinkedIn. It’s ****ing mental.

    Oh, and I made a joke on a sales call that one person didn’t get. Not a jokey joke, more just a work related quip.

    Then I got pushed out with one months notice.
     
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  7. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like your lass has bigger ambitions
     
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  8. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    Unless they can put their accusations in writing then surely whatever was said is only hearsay with no proof of what was said
    You could make the same or better allegation against the person that dropped you in by saying the only person you talked to other than your lass that night was off their heads on drink and drugs and their evidence cannot be relied on
     
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  9. Charlie Snakescock

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    Did they actually say this to you or just give you notice?

    Cos if they wanted to get rid of you, it's a bit dumb to come out with reasons like that, and a much safer way is for them to make up some bollocks about budget cuts and having to reduce staff costs. Your rights are zero anyway seeing as you haven't been there 2 years, so just take the pay off and move on.
     
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  10. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    Did Roly get sacked after they found out he was on here all the time he was supposed to be meeting customers? "Where's Roly ffs?" <whistle>
     
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  11. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    They made a tonne of people redundant and I was astonished I wasn’t one of them. This was Feb, so stupid me not lining something up sooner, but they’ve taken the usual Yank route of mumbling something stupid knowing full well I can’t get a solicitor involved for another year.

    I just wondered if hearsay was actually something you could be let go for, it sounds so woolly? But then as you say they could just say “fair enough, we retract that - but you cost too much so BYEEEE”, and I’m still ****ed.
     
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  12. Prince Isak (GG)

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    Sorry to hear your situation. Buy I feel it’s all to common now for companies to use any old crap to cut costs.

    The reality is do they have grounds for dismissal. Like what did you say which brings things into the context of dismissal.

    Or is it constructive?

    It’s all in the context mate. How was your relationship with your immediate peers? What was the options on exit. Did you get a legal option?

    I was managed out the door of a company years ago because I stood up to one of the partners. Once I did that he made sure everything I did was wrong. And ultimately in the end they offered legal council to basically force me out. With an NDA attached. They gave me 1 month pay and said bye.

    Not a sausage I could do about it.
     
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    As is often the case when the government changes the Tories set it so that you don't really have in-built employment rights until you've been in post for two years (used to be one year pre-2009ish). I used to work in Employment law but we're talking 2006/7 here so not exactly up to date!

    We used to advise employers and the basic advice was that if they were wanted to get rid of someone who had been employed for less than a year then tell them as little as possible just tell them to pick their things up and leave (we used to called it "unsuitability" but that was really just a name we made up, it has no legal significance). Once you start giving reasons you open yourself up to possible arguments of discrimination or unfairness. Nowadays I reckon that advice to employers still stands but would work for anyone employed less than two years. I suspect that unless they touched you up or told you it was because you're the wrong gender/colour/etc then there's not much you can do. In the time since I stopped doing it we've had predominantly Tory governments so I'd guess rights for the employees are only going to have been eroded. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
     
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  14. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    I think you’re both right. It simply doesn’t matter. Basic facts are I’m too highly paid for the revenue we generate and it’s “meh, that’ll do” in terms of reasoning.

    The workplace is ****ing toxic these days. You can’t even just be yourself it’s all got to be pretend and be the person they want, not who you are. And a lot of it stems from the US and it’s cancel culture.

    Just rancid. Need to get out of this industry (technology) and do something ****ing meaningful.
     
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  15. Prince Isak (GG)

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    Get into the education sector. Even though I am leaving it for political reasons. It’s a nice area. Not very well paid mind.
     
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  16. Roland Deschain

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    My issue is I’m a capitalist dog. Debts and lifestyle, so earning has to be higher. Going to be hard to unpick that.
     
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    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Well if there is anything I would suggest is live life to the max. Because you don’t know what’s around the next corner.
     
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  18. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    T. Last year my daughter was treated for a stage one bone lesion (tumour) in her collarbone. She's ok at the moment but this was totally out of the blue. Go and enjoy your life.
     
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    Just find something else and forget it....lifes too short for crusades. Work alone if possible.. everyone is offended by something these days or they're just psychos that enjoy getting people fired.
     
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  20. Charlie Snakescock

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    Since Covid I've almost exclusively been working from home, I'm a contractor so I constantly ping around jobs every 6 months or so. Interviews always online and laptop delivered to my house and very occasionally, if ever, going into the office.

    Much prefer it this way, I'm far more efficient, no journey to work, and best of all no office gossip, or "in crowd" that I'm never part of.
     
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