Someone has posted on the other forum a load of questions they'd like to be asked to him when this forum takes place (if at all..) Some very detailed and valid questions although others that certainly won't be in a public place - mainly because any organisation aren't going to be fully "open and honest" about a financial situation and in some cases probably aren't allowed to be. Club questions: Can you tell us the truth regarding selling Hassane Kamara for £16m? Jumbolina and TuT's questions about debt above (Posts #3 and #8) Why has it taken SO long for you to speak to fans? You must be aware it's been something we have been after for years, so why the ignorance towards that? If it isn't contempt for the fans, then what is it? What is the actual hierarchal structure? Gino, Duxbury, Giaretta, Manga, Costa - we are told these people are all very 'hands-on'....do you feel any incoming HC/manager would feel a sufficient level of control in order to make a coherent football team when the recruitment seems to have little focus on 'current team needs' and is based more on 'individuals' and 'future sell on profit'? Please explain your relationship with Mogi Bayat and why you feel it wise to have had the club in such close relationship with him? Why are the club you run so often in front of judges/authorities explaining ourselves? Can you clearly explain the clubs bonus structure/ad-hoc payment staff payment policies and confirm if this has always been kept to? And are all staff made aware of a change in these policies before they are enacted? Team Questions: Why has it taken the club so long to recruit in defensive areas? The rot has been setting in for years and you have overseen that and did little about it. Why did the club turn down the chance to buy Ivan Toney for such a low fee? Why does the club not recruit and scout a new long-term captain, instead preferring to pass the captaincy around perceived 'leaders' we have (Cleverly, Cathcart, Sissoko) who don't do the job well ON THE PITCH? Why did you see fit to spend £11m on Bayo and Okoye? Why did you not do everything in your power to keep Will Hughes, instead replacing him with players like Kucka and Etebo? Exactly what happened with the whole Rob Edwards situation and why should we trust you, or get behind any incoming coach, when the situation you create always feels temporary? Are you aware of the image the footballing world have of Watford Football Club because of the actions you take time and time again? Do you care? Anything else you'd like to see asked? Of course we don't even know when this is taking place and what the club situation will be? Might well be asking who is going to be the next manager and how long will they get and will players like Pedro be staying.
There are advantages for a young player to get first team experience and game time within a Championship level club that will be lost being one of numerous others with the larger clubs. With this in mind, does it make sense to pay so little, if reports are true, that the youngster will take off for decent pay?
You're not wrong - if I was the owner and they hit me with questions like that, I'd tell them where to go and walk out.
Yes unfortunately due to how this season has gone that is a lot of people’s mind set. Circumstances this season have meant a lot of unhappy supporters due to the on field performances or poor decisions off it regarding various issues . Not helped by the popular Rob Edwards being sacked and then doing well at Luton of all places. Everything will be seen in a a negative manner and they will probably be an expectation that Pozzo or whoever is just going to sit there and grovel . As I say not every question could be answered as people demand though which will no doubt only heighten their frustration. I mean they aren’t going to say “we’re skint and got no money” in public or criticise players .particularly. As I have said before it’s not like fans themselves haven’t wanted managers out either tbh and some wanted to see the back of leaders or people who did care about the club like Deeney /Foster . Sometimes the grass isn’t always greener and all that .
It's their mindset that gets me - the one that says "this is my club, ergo I'm entitled..." The simple truth is that it's the owner's club and he has invested heavily, so how the club is run is down to him, no-one else, and he is only answerable to himself. Sure, fans pay good money to follow the club they support, but that doesn't bring any proprietary rights - they probably spend even more at Tesco or Asda but that doesn't give them the right to demand answers to their questions in such a way.
I agree. Especially things like "Why did the club turn down the chance to buy Ivan Toney". The answer just gives us some gossip about something that happened in the past, and doesn't tell us how the club is being run today, or put across our view about how we would like the club to be run now. Sure, I'm curious how and why decisions were made, but we can't correct them now. I'm much more interested to know what the roles of people are, how are decisions to fire and hire managers made, what sort of football do we want the team to play, how worried should we be about the current financial position, etc.
I would agree entirely BB, however I do think that communication is a good thing. I would always be prepared to listen to what my shop-floor workers had to say, and try within reason to let them know what the company was trying to achieve, and why we took decisions in the way that we did. Sometimes an excellent suggestion came from them, and we could incorporate that into the structure, but there were occasions when I had to say no, but with a reason why. It was an attempt from me to build a team effort, and generally worked very well. I suspect that the management want to keep the fans as part of the team, so to speak, but their lack of communication has left some feeling they are not really part of it.
I don't disagree - but will add that communication is a two-way street. The owners certainly need to learn to communicate, but the fans - or those quoted in particular - need to learn to communicate in an acceptable manner. For me, the tenor of those questions is far from acceptable.
We are a top thirty club which for our generation was like winning the football lottery We have spent more time in the Premier League and beaten more top sis teams than 90% of the football pyramid and been to two FA Cup finals I think most of the feeling about sacking/releasing managers is down to the Media and the "here we go again" articles, Spurs have probably sacked more Premier League managers than we have with Chelsea close second, but they are the big boys so they can do what they want For us it has been the knee jerk decisions over the last four seasons that have left us confused and probably caused Gino to isolate himself, now more than ever the club needs everyone including us to pull together and make sure not going up will not be a total disaster
Maybe it's the same for all fans but I found even last summer people were saying why aren't we in for him or getting that guy but who knows if we did or not- maybe we did bid for Toney but he choice to join Brentford or Peterborough accepted their offer but as you say there was nothing official. Like you say let's concentrate on the future - is everyone at the club singing from the same hymn sheet so to speak? Or is there going to be another summer of one person saying one thing and clearly others thinking something else. Trouble is can anyone really say if a manager is going to be here long term - a bad start next season and the fans will be on his back. Same with players - last summer people would have said no to selling Sarr, now they cannot wait to get rid. Yes that is true and not gang up on others who go to the meeting and don't pile in on Pozzo and co like they probably want to. Last thing we need is the fans being disunited but I know many have been put off going to away games due to the behaviour of others.
Apparently this meeting is due to be in July and there will be a ballot which no doubt will cause a great fuss when people aren't selected to go and those that are don't ask the "right questions" It's actually getting quite nasty in some quarters with a certain site having members comparing the Pozzos to the Nazis in their behaviour! Some perspective and reality is needed here I mean no wonder the club don't listen to such fans - I understand they are worried about the behavior of some supporters at games and elsewhere (although if someone is just being kicked out just for holding a banner then that does seem harsh - if that is the sole reason for them being removed) One thing to be critical and constructively question situations but another to get so personal. Going in full of anger and fury isn't going to help anyone.
