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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

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    i honestly thought that with these constant 'mistruths' that the government throw up all the time now, that the people would realise what a shower of sh1t our system is...that rich people who had all education laid out and paid for basically securing them a 'top job' quite often in areas that they have absolutely no experience needs to be stopped, yet time after time we all simply laugh at them and wait for the next Prime Moron.

    forget politics and politicians but if we allowed kids to walk into shops and choose whatever they want and allow them to walk out without paying and they know that all they need to say when finally ushered to court is 'i did not realise it was wrong' and let them loose every time to do the self same thing throughout life, i am damned sure it would not take long before it was all changed but this is exactly what happens in our government and they also get well paid plus a following pension, no wonder they refuse to feckin change.
     
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  2. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Life is much less stressful when you hate all the bastards and piss yourself laughing at others on here supporting all the useless
    c unts.
     
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  3. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

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    beats me marra...

    somebody never worked in his/her entire life because they are multi millionaires tells me exactly how much i need to live on.
     
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  4. Hefty fullback

    Hefty fullback Well-Known Member

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    40% --Ouch!
    US Capital gains example:

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  5. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Go on Kier :emoticon-0102-bigsm

     
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  6. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    10k a day or 1.5,k a hour. And they have the cheek to stand up and tells us all they know it's hard and understand what we go through.

    Tories out.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    No matter what they do the defence will always be 'They're all as bad as each other' ...

    ... even though we've never had so many crimes/scandals/resignations/PM's in any government, from any party.

    It's the lazy Mag defence after every act of stupidity, `All clubs have a minority of idiots' <doh>
     
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  9. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

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    There's a lot to consider with that story. However, I'll just write EVIL TORY BASTARDS and those of you satisfied with that kind of lazy response can stop reading, give me my like, and go about your day safe in the knowledge you've done your bit.



    Have they gone?
    Good.

    6k would seem to be the going rate as advertised by Brady, is there an extra premium created by the fact that the other two have been cabinet ministers - remember, they won't face anywhere near the level of scrutiny and reporting abroad than they do here.
    I'd also like to see the fees that the opposition charge, for context. That would give us an idea of how much influence these foreign companies think they're buying. That money is only going to go up in the future, and if you think Labour are going to do anything to stop this when they get in except hide it better until they're well enough established to not need to bother, you're mental. It'll be 'now it's our turn to make the big money'.

    When I see the consultancy fees some companies who basically do what I do charge, I can fully believe those figures are seen as reasonable. It's just a different scale. I've got people spending twenty grand on an assessment for the sake of ekeing out an extra few metres on a wind turbine. It's pennies to these people when you consider what they expect to earn should your influence get them the permissions they need.
     
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  10. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, they are all as bad as each other.:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Or in other words there IS NO defence, so they deflect by saying just that <laugh>
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely every indiscretion is met with 'Who's to say some Labour politician wouldn't do the same at some point in the future?'

    It's like saying we should be suspicious of all GPS called Shipman in case they start bumping off their elderly patients <laugh>
     
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    Maybe not to begin with, but it's insidious. There'll only be a few making big money on the opposition side right now, but when they're in government, everyone wants someone with a voice at the table where decisions are made on their side. It's inevitable and all governments have done it, it's always been a potential problem but it's always been 'well it's alright if my side are doing it' from the electorate.
     
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  15. rooch 3

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    My mate did exactly this when Labour got into power. After 3 months never spoke to him again,
    This morning Starmer was on the news about the Tories pinching their policy on crime. Never seen that once since Starmer became leader. So I assume whatever the Tories come out with Labour will say you stole that off us. Now that’s a canny policy <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  16. FellTop

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    A labour politician was found guilty of breaching lobbying rules associated with her paid consultancy work just a couple of months ago. Ed Davey currently earns about £80k a year apparently as a consultant. I suspect there are a lot more on the conservative side as they are the party in power.

    Lots of interesting stories now appearing about Labour lobbyists. Was it the shadow chancellor recently in the news for donations to her office? Oddly the opposition parties are not, as far as I know, bound by the same regulations when it comes to declaring lobbying activities as the party in power.

    A couple of years ago Boris brought a motion to the commons to ban working as a political or influence bearing consultant. Labour abstained on the vote but it passed. Think it might now be in play, not too sure.

    Starmer is saying he will ban all second jobs. Nice in theory, not so much in practice I suspect. Unless we are going to pay salaries befitting of people running a country, so we at least attract capable people.

    Long winded ramble, but this sort of thing has gone on for a long time and it isnt just this current lot. Most politicians these days go on to make huge money after they leave parliament. I suspect some are in it for just that, to launch the next part of their career and earn the big bucks.
     
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    There was a recent report that stated £15m of the £16m external income earned last year was paid to tories, obviously they are in government, and probably won't be allowed if Starmer gains power.
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've no doubt there are some bad eggs in other parties mate ...

    ... it just doesn't excuse the seemingly endless tsunami of sleaze from a party that's been in power for over a decade.

    Opposition parties are pretty much kicking their heels the party in power should be striving to make everyone's life better, not just their own.
     
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  19. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    I have no issues with a party in government adopting the policies and ideas of the opposition Rooch, providing we all benefit from it in the end such as the energy cap and the windfall tax, both adopted by the government after ideas taken from the Labour Party. It shows a professional attitude to the democratic process of government.

    I also have no issues with MP’s having secondary jobs, providing they are lawful and recorded in the Register of Members' Interests. Like all of us they are entitled to earn money commensurate with their skills and within the rules and regulations laid out by their primary employer.
     
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  20. rooch 3

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    Aye, I was just having a dig mate, Starmer saying another party were stealing their policy, I read and watch the news everyday, never once have I heard him mention it, in fact I’ve hardly heard him mention anything.
     
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