That’s not true though. Their nationality has no factor on their style of play. For example look at Sean Dyche & Eddie Howe, both English yet their teams play very different football
Surely you are both right? Where you learnt your football influences your preferred style of play but there are always outliers.
I think that this is right. Your nationality is irrelevant, but your experience isn't. If you've spent a lot of time playing in Italy, then you'll be familiar with catenaccio. The Dutch went with Total Football, Germany have embraced gegenpressing and Spain have tiki-taka. England used to be direct and 4-4-2, but the league is pretty varied now.
I believe that the "grass roots" coaching culture sets the tone for the play in national leagues. You will get the outlier club that goes in a radically different way (Ajax with "total football" , Barca with tika-taka etc) , but whenever you watch Euro teams in UEFA land, no matter where they are in their particular leagues you can see what the core competences are for players in their home leagues.
England does not now have a style simply because we have so many disparate coaches and players. Rather like English culture, it has been submerged as a direct result of it's Empire which I find quite satisfying. As globalsation gathered pace the differences in all cultures began to dissappear and now you will see a pan European culture alongside local cultures and the same is true of football. Scotland, Wales, North of England all have stronger cultural notes than South East England. I can still see the football styles of Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Italy Portugal and so on, but we will also see the pan European even World style as well.
It's also worth pointing out the meddling with rules began in earnest in the 70's pushed for amongst others by Platini. He had been kicked off the park by Germany and others. The robust style employed by Germany, England, USSR, Argentina, Sweden, in particular, was a problem for the Latin nations who played a more lightweight skilful game. Italy combined both styles and was always successful. Brazil were kicked off the park in 66 world cup. It's no coincidence that Spain and France came to the fore once their skills were protected. I think this is one of the problems with refs in the PL they keep changing their mind on how physical the game should be. Then there is the cheating that has moved into the game in a big way, probably as the money has grown.
I would like to take issue with that Spurf, I am from the South East in fact you don't get much more South East than me (SE Kent), and we have plenty of culture down here we just don't shout about it as much as the north does. And seeing as though London is geographically in South East England London is still cultural epicentre of the UK we are not short of cultural references.
Well I am not an expert but just from Kent we have – Caxton of the printing press, Actors Sydney Greenstreet (Casablanca), Ballard Berkley (The Major), Harry Andrews (many British war films inc The Battle of Britain and 633 Squadron), Trevor Howard, Peter Cushing, Hattie Jacques, Tom Baker, Michael Crawford, Brenda Blethyn, Mark Rylance, Paul Ritter, Tamsin Greig, MacKenzie Crook, Orlando Bloom and Gemma Arterton.. Charles Dickens and the great landscape artist Turner both spent most of their life in Kent. Also from Kent Peter Rogers Producer of the Carry on Films, Oliver Postgate and Peter Firmin who created The Clangers and Bagpuss, Peter Blake the pop Artist (Sgt Pepper and Stanley Road), Zandra Rhodes, Mary Quant and Quentin Blake the illustrator. Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Bill Wyman are all Men of Kent. Other musicians include Noel Redding, John Paul Jones, Sid Vicious, Billy Idol, Siouxsie Sue, Kate Bush, Shane MacGowan. And finally Frank Muir, Michael Bentine, Rod Hull (and Emu), David Frost, Jack Dee, Tony Hart, Ian Hislop, John Lloyd, Brian Moore, Barry Davies and a few more writers Geoffrey Chaucer, Frederick Forsyth, Christopher Marlowe, E Nesbit, Somerset Maugham and HG Wells And thats just Kent....
Kent is hop farming and fishing. Fish and chips and beer....nothing more English and delicious than that...
TCM that's an impressive list and thanks for posting it. To be honest I have never thought about the culture in that way. What I am talking about, and I didn't explain this, was the culture of what we describe as ordinary folk. Not the extraordinary folk that you are highlighting. In my experience and that includes living most of my life in South London, Kent and West Sussex, is what happens in communities. In other words folk culture not popular culture. I come from a musical family but that's not the norm in South London where I was until I was 23. In Scotland where I live now it's the norm to have musical people in your family. Scotland immediately references Tartan, Whisky, Scots, Gaelic, Doric, Kilts, Bagpipes, Storytelling, Folk Music, Ceilidh. You could make a similar sort of list for Wales, Ireland, Northumberland. These are ongoing traditions that take place in communities in Scotland. In South East England. The Pub, the rest is of no particular English heritage. The Rolling Stones cultural references are Black America btw not England. We are debating this on the wrong thread so if you want to continue lets change to the Bill Nich.
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