if that was your question then i am afraid to say yes, yes it is. of course i may be doing you a great injustice, by treating you like some of the other numpties on here but thats is a really question
Okay let me rephrase, why are you against poppies being used as a symbol for remembrance day ? I say this as you have made a few threads on burning them?
nah, not true. This is the first thread from me I dont have a problem them being used at all, although linking current soldiers and war to them is belittling those it was intended for also its all very commercial now, the intention was good but some poppies are selling for hundreds of pounds on ebay etc, some by soldiers and why the governments leaves it up to charities to support the veterans and not themselves is a disgrace
You are a racist, British-hating ****. Get the **** off this board you ****ing tool. (Mick, please shut this thread down and all the other threads by this racist ****, thanks)
As a bit of an outsider living among English people and looking in on your quirky ways I do find the Poppy a bit of a strange one. It appears to be morally unquestionable, the ultimate super symbol which everyone must support and no one can criticise. If you dare not to wear one, like Jon Snow or don't allow it to appear on a football jersey, like Fifa you are going to feel the full wrath of an outraged media who will treat you in the similar vain to something horrendous such as a murderer or *****phile. The media outrage today shocked me for a number of reasons, the main one being how unquestionable this symbol seemed to be to a lot of people. For me it did reek of a kind of moral arrogance - the assumption that this symbol could be nothing but just and correct, and that everyone who has died serving the country's military did so for right and just reasons - that everyone else in the world must understand how different this symbol is to every one of their different political or cultural emblems which they might one day want to show on their football shirt? Fifa ended up caving in and I'm not sure they would have done so if the likes of Palestine or Israel wanted to display a symbol to commemorate their war dead.
I really dont see the issue here, if you don't support what they symbolise then okay thats your opinion, but no need to burn them... This is another case of people thinking you don't have the same opinion as me so I want to hurt you in some way or oppress you. Just simply dont buy one..simples. Everything turns commercial in this day and age, it is a capitalist country! The soliders in world war 1 and 2 thought to stop discrimination, and now people discriminate against them, ludacris!
Not just England: Wales and Scotland (TBC) will also wear it. Northern Ireland probably would too if they were playing. Australia and New Zealand will be wearing them in their Rugby League matches. The poppy is a symbol of remembrance in Commonwealth countries and many countries outside of that. It was started in France and was quite big in the USA years ago. I get what you're saying though. I've noticed a shift to wider use in recent years but think that's a good thing as for many years it felt like I was the only person who had noticed that it was time to reflect on those who had served their country and those who had paid the ultimate sacrifice in performing that duty. Consider WWII (I know there were other wars and wars that shouldn't have been): I find it quite disgusting that there are people in this country who couldn't give a flying ****, or are even glad, about the deaths of those who died defending us from a brutal regime hell bent on turning the whole of Europe into an enlarged pure-bred Germanic state. Just think Mike, you could have been speaking German rather than...erm...nevermind.
Very true, totally agree, people criticise the poppy and yet don't realise if the people who it honours didn't fight in those wars they wouldn't even be alive. You should thank these people for being alive!!
He was also a bit tongue in cheek about the fact I'd be speaking German, instead of English... as an Irishman - just in case you missed the point
They fought for freedom above all else so whether you like it or not people should be allowed to criticise the poppy as they are allowed an opinion. This isn't Nazi Germany after all.....
