Absolutely wonderful from Conte, and he won`t give a shiete what he`s said either. Conte is a winner, unlike our owners who have a clear loser`s mentality. Conte has sporting ambition, Levy & ENIC don`t.
As I've said before, if there was an alternative owner who had a track record of improving clubs that bettered ENIC's, I would be delighted to give them a try. I agree with you on ambition but you need to measure success somehow and two successive fourth places is not a sign of failure or lack of ambition.
Conte has only actually won when he has been at a club with more resources than most of his competitors. That feels more like someone after an easy life than one with ambition. ENIC are literally our most ambitious owners ever.
Nice from Romero, Conte throwing it all out there, just wish he would catch his own stupid decisions and tactical **** ups that have gone on all season...
I don't know, he's seen us crash out of potentially winnable cup competitions against opponents we surely should have beaten two seasons in a row I'd say that qualifies as Spurs DNA...
Conte is a disgrace, with his pseudo anger in public. We’ve averaged 4/5th over the last 15 years with financial resources that reflect that over that period. With a stadium inbetween, some great CL nights, great EPL games (mainly under Poch). And conte has ****ted on everyone and all the hard work that’s been done by many to get us to a position where we should be winning. yes, we should have won something in the last five years, but he is a part of that, to make that happen and not say this is what it is. what a dick. knew he was a rat from day one and wanted him gone about six months ago with his **** tactics and attitude. been given resources and he ****ed it up. clown. **** off.
I say again: Conte should have got the boot ages ago. You speak about Levy bringing in "serial winners" because people wanted him to "go out and do whatever it took to win a trophy". I don't know a single Spurs fan over the age of 16 who was happy when Mourinho was appointed. Certainly very few on this forum were anything more than morbidly concerned. And when we first approached Conte in the summer, so many fans I know warned that it would end like this. Levy only approached him in November because of how disastrous things had gotten under Nuno, so please don't cast Conte's appointment as Levy wisely listening to fan consensus. He literally snookered himself with his own stubborn stupidity and had nowhere else to turn. And this is my question to you and to all those who are calling for Conte to leave and Levy to stay: Do you trust Levy, especially with Paratici almost certainly out of the club, to get the next decision right? If so, on what evidence do you base this trust? And if he does get it right and we find a Poch mk. II, do you trust that this new manager will be adequately backed to make us truly competitive? If so, on what evidence do you base this trust? I don't think we appreciate how precarious the situation is. Kane could well be gone this summer. Lloris is declining and Son could well be joining him. We have 11 senior players who need to leave the club and a crop of youngsters whose development is currently stalling. If we get the next appointment as wrong as the previous three, we could fade back into permanent obscurity.
I don't think getting a managerial decision 'right' is very likely whoever is in charge. Perhaps you could enlighten me with a list of clubs who have managed to consistently appoint the 'right' manager.
It really depends on how far back you want to go but assuming a decade is a fair sample: Brighton, Brentford, Liverpool and Man City. So is is certainly possible.
Liverpool? Who else apart from Klopp? Brighton and Brentford are not fishing in the same pool and none of their managers have succeeded at the highest level once they left. Man City just appoint the guy who has won a lot recently whatever the expense. Almost everyone else has a poorer record than Levy.
Rodgers took them to within a Stevie G slip of the title, Klopp came in to complete and improve the job. Chelsea also appoint whoever has won a lot recently whatever the expense and haven't achieved the same trophy haul City have in a similar time frame. Brighton and Brentford aren't fishing in the same pool, but that wasn't your question. With respect, you cannot move the goal posts just because my response doesn't suit your point of view. You asked a straightforward question: name a a list of clubs who have managed to consistently appoint the 'right' manager. I provided you with four examples, two clubs smaller than us and two bigger. Don't then insert terms and conditions into the discussion. I've often wondered what it would take for you to 'turn' on Levy and ENIC and I'm pretty sure we'd need to be relegated in order for that to happen.
3 right picks out of.. Hoddle (known to be a terrible man manager at Swindon, Chelsea, England and Southampton) Pleat (an 8 month care taker ffs) Santini (known for boring football and lasted 3 months) Jol (Levy was persuade by Arnesen to employ him...massively improved us and was then treated like **** when sacked) Ramos (36 league games 10 wins) Redknapp (good choice for us) AVB (**** right off) Sherwood (6 month caretaker & total twat) Pochettino (excellent but treatedlike Jol at the end) JM (predictable **** but only sacked right before a cup final to take heat off Levy for the ESL **** up...should have been sacked 3 months earlier for boring everyone ****less) Mason (7 game caretaker cos we didn't have a plan B even though it had been obvious for 3 months that Maureen would need to go) After a 12 week wait we got... Nuno () Conte (want him to go against everything he is as a manager and act like he's Pochettino ffs) is a failure...especially as one of those picks wasn't his (Jol). Arsenal picked a manager and stuck with their plan ... 2nd attempt at replacing wenger. At Liverpool Rodgers moved them on from the Dalglish / Hodgson era and then Liverpool gave Klopp 4 years. Brighton won promotion under Hughton, established themselves in the Premier League and then looked to improve. So under Potter they decided on a club set up which led to great recruitment and very good football so when Potter left they brought in a manager which suited their philosophy and have improved again. Newcastle put Eddie Howe in charge when they looked dead and buried last season. Has done well without yet breaking the bank. Brentford employed Frank's 5 years ago. They didn't panic when they threw away automatic promotion and then lost in the play offs. They stuck y him and their philosophy and have replaced players with great scouting. I haven't included City for obvious reasons. Levy's record is poor
I agree with conte’s comments, but he doesn’t help himself by not playing his strongest team against Sheffield United in a cup game which we should have won, in a competition we had a strong chance of at least making the final.l, or potentially winning the bloody thing.
Think he'll be gone soon. I actually agree with him...I don't see the level of effort I'm seeing at other clubs... where is the passion? The games almost gone..
My question had the word 'consistently' in it which you ignored completely in your response. I didn't define it but getting two in a row right clearly isn't evidence of consistency. I also didn't define 'right' so perhaps it was a meaningless question but given the context of criticism of ENIC's trophy haul I was thinking of big clubs winning trophies as being part of the criteria. My main criterion for supporting the owners is whether they have the strategy right, not whether they make mistakes implementing it as I think everyone does that. The strategy has already changed us from having a chance of being relegated to that more or less disappearing. In fact fans now appear to think that finishing fifth is some sort of disastrous failure that warrants sacking the manager and the owners.