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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 14th March)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good Morning. It's Tuesday 14th March, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

    Juve want Gnonto in swap deal with McKennie

    Italian news outlet 'CalcioMercatoWeb' are insisting that Wilfred Gnonto heads Juventus' Summer shopping list, and are willing to do a swap deal involving Weston McKennie to ensure they get their man.

    Off the field, the Serie A giants are in a mess. They were docked 15 points in January for financial irregularities and false accounting; and their coffers have long since dried up, leaving them both desperate and destitute.

    Since arriving in January, McKennie has not lived up to his potential £35m price tag. He may have bolstered the midfield, he has failed to influence results, and shows very little creative influence, compared to his Italian team mate. Would you like to see Leeds sign McKennie on a permanent deal? What price tag would you put on Gnonto?

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    Bookies back Leeds for survival

    Leading Bookmakers Bet365 are of the opinion that despite their perilous position, Leeds will escape relegation this season, albeit by the ski of their teeth. Since taking the reigns, ER gaffer Javi Gracia, has picked up four points from as many games, yet results elsewhere have seen the Whites fall to within a point of the pit of the Premier League table.

    Despite picking up seven points from the last four games, Southampton are odds on for the drop (1/2). South Coast neighbours Bournemouth have also picked up seven points, albeit from their last five matches, but also remain firm favourites to be playing Championship football next season (4/6).

    Then come Everton, who have recorded three wins and a draw in their last seven games (5/4); followed closely by Nottingham Forest (11/8), who despite their league positioning (14th), haven't won since beating Leeds on 5th February. Leeds are 6/4, which seem quite generous when you consider they have won just once in thirteen outings, and lie 19th in the table.

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    Fergie call up

    Connor Ferguson has been called up to train with the first team squad, after just three months into his professional career. The talented left back only signed terms back in January, days after his 18th birthday having impressed for the U18's.

    Just like his mentor, and agent Ian Harte, Fergie is an attacking left back by trade, and having caught of the eye of Michael Skubala, his development has been bought forward with immediate effect.


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  2. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning all

    I’d much prefer to keep Gnonto, there will be tons of rumours of who’s leaving until we secure our PL status. McKennie won’t be joining If we go down, it will be interesting to see who we keep
     
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  3. milkyboy

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    ... let's hope we never have to find out

    Surprised that anyone is disappointed by McKennie's creative influence. Like being disappointed your goalkeeper doesn't score enough.
     
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  4. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Morning all. Transfer speculation won't be relevant until we know where we're plying our trade next season. If relegated neither McKennie or Gnonto will be around. Anyway back to the grind <doh>
     
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  5. Jammy 07

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    Morning all.

    Were the worst to happen then surely not all our good players would move on. After all coming straight back up at the first attempt is the best way to mitigate relegation and clubs that keep the nucleus of their PL team together generally fair better in that respect.

    Undoubtably it would take some financial jiggery pokery but Newcastle did it twice under Mike Ashley.

    Unless there are specific relegation clauses, like Raphinha had, then the players are still under contract whatever division we're in.
     
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  6. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Id expect any agent worth his salt Jammy would have exactly those clauses built in. There is no way players vying for international places like Koch, Rodrigo etc will write off their international careers by playing in the championship. Can't see it
     
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    … true, there will be some big name departures, but not all sides disintegrate to the level perceived. Norwich kept buendia, cantwell, pukki all of whom had been heavily linked elsewhere... and bounced back up. We have higher profile players than that, so would be tougher job and much will obviously depend on individual contract situations.

    Burnley, however, sold many of their key players and reinvested in new manager, new style, new young players. Higher risk but it's paid off for them.
     
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  8. milkyboy

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    You can't force a club to sell you unless there's a release clause with an agreed fee to trigger it. Not all clubs allow this, but there was some article about us last year that suggested we were one of the clubs that allow relegation release clauses - Raph being the most public. It's actually often the clubs having wage reduction clauses in case of relegation, something apparently Leeds also do... so with us it may often be a case of: accept a lower wage or leave for the release fee if someone offers it.

    Let's not forget however the salaries these guys have been getting in the PL... which is why they came in the first place. They may well be better off financially with us in the championship, even with a cut, than moving back to Europe. The threat is most likely losing them to other PL clubs - so boils down to which players other sides rate and are prepared to pay release fee (if relevant) or top dollar for (for none release fee contracted players). Burnley's bigger name departures all went to PL clubs.
     
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  9. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The rumours doing the rounds state that Meslier, Koch and Harrison would move on
     
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  10. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    My guess is that Rutter will go out on loan to an Accrington Stanley or a Grimsby next season to gain experience, learn how to pass, and hopefully score a few goals
     
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  11. Doc

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    Leeds are at the lower end of the wage league and why Harrison would have more than doubled his wages by signing for Leicester and the deal was agreed and Rodgers was waiting for his signature. An player who leaves Leeds to go to another prem outfit is going for wages
     
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  12. Eireleeds1

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    In other words the better players will leave. Exactly my point. Anyway according to the bookies we haven't to worry about it and the super computer also agrees <ok>
     
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    Must try harder ell


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  14. Marcos Barber

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    Brilliant mate <applause> I’d save that if I was you, I’m sure you’ll find loads of use for it :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  15. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    I agree we would get to keep roberts/Llorente/james the list is endless
     
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  16. milkyboy

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    So that’s the good news… and the bad?
     
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  17. Doc

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    Fkg Roberts is already back having his loan cut short by QPR because he’s a biscuit.
     
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  18. wakeybreakyheart

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    What about the ugly?.
     
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  19. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Rutter's off to AFC Fylde on loan next season... <yikes><yikes><yikes>
     
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  20. milkyboy

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    you'll be eating your words when he bags a brace on saturday

    i am starting to get nervous as there is an avatar bet hanging on him scoring in the PL this season
     
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