Match of the day tonight

The BBC have stated that there had been a breach of our guidelines.

 

But they’ve also admitted that they don’t have an agreed and clear position on his use of social media, so unless he said something on air when did he breach their guidelines ?

BTW

You haven’t answered my question about the governance of the BBC

 

And you certainly wouldn’t

 

It doesn’t say no employee can have personal views, and if they do they can’t use any social media platform to voice them , especially if they don’t tow the government line…

That clause relates the BBC itself as an organisation, not every single employee. The BBC will have to demonstrate that it has measures in place to abide by those guidelines. Michael Grade was on Radio 4,this afternoon and he explained news journalists and presenters have it written into their contract, sports presenters don’t .

We live in a free society, we are all allowed to have an opinion and voice it, obviously within limits, There is an obvious need for news presenters and journalists to remain impartial, there isn’t the need for sports journalists to have the same restrictions.

if Mr Lineker had broken his contract the BBC could, and would give him an ultimatum, apologise or be sacked . The fact they haven’t demonstrates they don’t have the grounds to do it. They tried to bully him into doing it and he wouldn’t back down, hence all the other sports presenters and commentators are standing behind him. If he backs down the BBC will impose similar restrictions on the rest of them and they know it.

 

I don’t use stuff like Twitter or Instagram but I know that people can be reprimanded, or dismissed if they bring the company they work for into disrepute in their own time on social media
Lineker is entitled to his crass, racist and unwise (in this particular case) opinion but when the left cry foul over Jeremy Clarksons attempted joke about Markle and he loses his role of host of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire due to the outcry it caused, then Lineker should suffer the same fate in my opinion
He’s not bigger than the BBC even if he thinks he is

 

Dont remember these free speech activists manning the solidarity banners for anybody else including Qataris.

 

hes getting 1.35 million to be a top bod on the BBC not to be comparing women of Asian descent with Jewish husbands to?? he dont make sense Gary. put it another way you get this big lump Gary and we know you love money a lot, but we want to you to go easy on that social media because your associated with us now, and for that money you love a lot we want you to not be twat on your twatter.

 

Might have another job with the Qataris lined up. Gravy helps with that tax bill he has with HMRC and buying another villa to flog via off shore companies goal hanger inc arf arf.

 

Then you didn’t watch the opening ceremony of the World Cup.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/gary-lineker-qatar-world-cup-b2229149.html

 

Probably because people wanted to see what it was like, without pundits. If it was the same next week do you really believe it would get higher.

 

Yeah they went and took the money. Solidarity?? nada. took the money.

#Solidarity.

 

I have not answered the rest of your post because you are making assertions, like you have Gary Linekers contract to hand.

Yes there is a need. Gary Lineker could be bringing the BBC into disrepute. He is NOT impartial. His remarks have insulted people who through their taxes pay for the BBC.

Examine what he has said. Suella Braveman's children are descendants of those who survived the holocaust. Gary Lineker is a white man having a pop at a women of differing colour with a Jewish husband and throwing 1930's Germany around. The optics there are dire. Jewish groups have expressed criticism of Mr Lineker's offensive remarks. I know a person who says Gary Lineker's remarks are hurtful, she is the Daughter of a Pole who fought the Nazis. We can multiply this offense and hurt created by Lineker over and over again. The UK is incomparable to 1930's Germany.

Yes Mr Lineker has the right to be deeply offensive, to be hurtful, but the BBC also can have a right to not use his services anymore because of the damage he is causing to them.

 

Personally I find it funny that people are talking about Lineker’s tweet rather than the half a billion we’ve given France.

 

You’re an intelligent man, he likens the language being used now, to then. That’s all. He doesn’t mention the Nazis, or the holocaust

He has said he will speak up for the unfortunate souls who don’t have a voice. That’s hardly the language of someone intending to upset survivors of that period
, in fact the exact opposite.

The uk, as you rightly say isn’t comparable to 1930’s Germany, that’s the whole point, stopping people from speaking out against the government of the day, which is what you advocating, is.

My point really is freedom of speech is the bedrock of our society, to not take it away from anyone, even if you disagree with them, is more important than almost anything as it prevents a repeat of those awful times. Being brave enough to confront these issues is what prevents them happening again.

 

I saw this on OTIB. It’s a bit extreme, but I thinks it’s meant to be, whilst making a good point.

 

Jonathon Pie is very entertaining.

Tory rhetoric is not reminiscent of 1930's Germany. Tory rhetoric can't be reminiscent of 1930's Germany. Its historically illiterate to not know there would be no large scale migration into a totalitarian racist and murderous ethno-state.

Small boats etc into 1930's Germany. There is another bad joke here.

If you use 1930's Germany you evoke what the Nazis did. The mechanisms that created hell on earth were being put in place.

Lineker unless he is thick as **** should understand that.

 

C O N F U S I O N .... [not aimed at you but the present situation ] a freelance person is able to do work where he wants to ..
an instance ............. as a courier I was a freelance courier, but I contracted to one courier company [ to have a daily stream of work ] with a provisio that from time to time I could take on other jobs BUT they were SECONDARY TO my contract!
GL is able to to do adverts and things as has probably permission of BBC to do so I would guess? I am of the same opinion of Wiz regarding GL .. as footballer brilliant, loved him in the first few years as a pundit, but as his narcissim grew went right off him. With viewing figures up, by 25% without him maybe at 60 time to retire, make a few more crisp adverts and go and write a true interpretation of his life history..... probably be 3 volumnes each bigger than war and peace .....

have been trying to explain this to Ashton without success ..

side note.. both BBC and ITV use freelance, totally freelance camera/ reporting teams and sound crews [ mainly for outside broadcasts ] again first hand experience. Bristol has both BBC and ITV broadcast hubs. We used to collect the raw material from local events as they finished or as soon as they finished and take to either BBC Whiteladies road or ITV Arnos Court. LATER we had to collect it and take to the other .. most of the time. These were true freelance ... but who paid most got the copy first and the knew it and paid less to have it second!

 

such a reply is defeatism!