A couple years ago [ 2018 ] The Sun called for Lineker's sacking from Match of the Day, accusing him of breaching BBC impartiality guidelines regarding "child gender comments? Also posts on political issues. Lineker is a freelance presenter whose BBC appearances do not concern politics, so in 2018 he was exempt from the corporation's rules regarding impartiality on social media, comment from Jonathon Agnew? The disagreement came after a string of political tweets from Lineker as the Conservative Party held a confidence vote in the prime minister's leadership. One included: "Extraordinary to watch us take our country back and rip it to shreds in the process." He has regularly written critical posts about Brexit and Prime Minister Theresa May, as well as publicly backing the campaign for another EU referendum. I am assuming that he has a an agreement that he he exempt from impartiality because his brief is football? I am totally for free speech, but wary of the comments in it, and especially any connotations! one good thing to come out of it will be more football highlights to watch v inter match rag chewing!
Today [ thats a ref to a period of time not just 10/3/2023 ] I sort of agree , have the similar opinion. WHEN the Liz Truss/ Boris out FIASCO was happening KS within a week had a new manifesto which looked good .. he reworded all the out going PM's manifest [ well bigger% of it ] as the new Labour manifest and success ahead for the country! He is a true opposition leader they say white he says purple .. they say dry he says wet .. they say low he says high ... they say right he says left etc etc etc ... how peeved he must have been when RISHI took the reins and re instated a lot of what LT had dumped! If more time was spent on a Wednesday midday PARLIAMENTARY SESSION on covering the important things to happen like growth/economy/ financial aid to industies that are our future instead of being .. well trying to be inflammatory toward individuals and knocking things from the past that no one can change we would be well well into getting out of the mess we are in.
Whether you like what he said or not, if his contract doesn’t prevent him from voicing his views in his own time, and by the way why would it, he’s freelance and he presents a football programme, why shouldn’t he. As for standing back from his role, how hypocritical is that, would he have been ok if he’d arranged a loan for Boris, presumably then he wouldn’t have to step back from his role. The BBC have given in to pressure from the government, afraid if they don’t the BBC licence fee will be under pressure, it stands out a mile.
do you actually know what the brief of the BBC IS ??? and why it is is run by a licence fee. If you do then why are you making contary remarks?
He’s not broken his contract, look at the statement the BBC have put out, they’ve said he’s been told to step back until an agreement can be agreed on his social media usage, which implies there isn’t one in place at the moment. Therefore whether you like it or not they are attempting to stop him speaking his mind on social media. I want to live in a society that allows free speech, not one that tries to suppress it.
Stop changing the subject, the principle is freedom of speech, the BBC are acting like a state owned corporation, if we head down the route you are suggesting they will end up no better than Russian television who only report stories inline with government thinking. they should be independent and not to be pressurised by government. as for not answering q’s you are a fine one to talk, you still haven’t answered mine from yesterday, or more accurately the day before. RoD showed you were wrong also , and you tried waffling your way out… now there’s a surprise
I understand news readers and news journalists have to remain impartial, but he’s a freelance presenter of a football program, and is obviously acting within his contract. We know that’s the case because even the BBC aren’t suggesting he isn’t. it’s not about impartiality it’s about a much wider issue, freedom of speech. Forget party politics, once society tries to limit freedom of speech unnecessarily we are on a slippery slope.. where does it stop?, who will be next.? I find it troubling that an organisation run by mostly conservative leaning men, the most senior of which is himself under investigation for potentially improperly obtaining his post, but who is still actively continuing his role while the investigation goes ahead, removes Lineker for speaking out against a conservative policy. Surely the head of the organisation should be whiter than white to avoid these sort of criticisms
It seems I’m not alone in my views, alongside MOTD pundits and alternative presenters refusing to appear on MOTD , commentaters, and even potentially some players have decided not to do pre or post match interviews in a stand iof solidarity. JGF do you still think your q is relevant, or are you, like the tories and the BBC, just trying to deflect from the actual principle at stake here ?
Imo the way to sort out the problem is quite simple. Process them properly, open safe routes, allow them to work while their claim is being processed, turn away those who don’t meet the asylum criteria (which would happen before they reach us if done properly). If there was a safe route to apply, then the number of trafficked people would reduce . Simple really .
I will always answer a question but as your post says it seems you do not know the brief of the BBC is existance and why they get the licence fee and others do not. ROD is right in your eyes as you look at the surface and not underneath so be it if people didnt have their own interpretation of what they see/ hear then there would be no need to say it as everyone would know the answer before the comment was made! The enjoyable thing about our board is it is football related in the main ... but would only be a shadow of its self if it wasnt for the off topic threads and the discussions that go on. Reading tete a tetes between two factions is interesting to follow sometimes. Dont ever change ... anyone on here ... oh come on you Redzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I don't agree with his views. They verge on the ridiculous, however he should be able to air them. Co-presenters are standing in solidarity and the BBC will show the games without the pundits. Wonder if it might catch on.
Apparently has spread to all aspects of sports presentation. the tails wagging the dog! heres one for Ashton.. the BBC gets the licence fee as a broadcaster because it was set up to be unbiased and impartial with no political affiliation. Its employed are regulated with how they present themselves according to that code of practice. If in normal general practice .. any type of work the employee brings the company into disrepute they can be censored [ sacked/ warned/ demoted /etc ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This issue is about a front facing employee of an "institution" having an agenda outside his agreed work practice [ Lineker is FOOTBALL PUNDIT,] He is entitled to free speech we all are but do not confuse free speech with radical intentions. He is a bit of a narcisis, likes being in the spot light thats why he presents football.and is very good at it. Politically he has opinions that were he a MP would not have the whip of any party?? Sometimes we need to look at how we say things. and accept we were over the top or should rephrase or apologise. All his "rants" seem to be anti establishment. and it is not the subject matter that is the problem but the use of "non tasteful" references that are designed to to glorify their action.
AS AN ASIDE wife just back from town, on a fairly packed bus .. almost first comments through door was Lineker and Wright ought to get a life. Said never been on a nearly full lower deck of the the bus and most people were exchanging views about Lineker and Wright no one was standing up for them and good riddance .. Lineker thinks he is a god .. but he isnt was the concensus ... hey these were ordinary people that dont give two sh*** about football or Match of the day......! Didnt know my wife had such strong opinion on them ... doesnt really like football, hasnt been to watch grandson play...
Starmer said the crux of the issue was that the government had failed with their asylum system and was looking to blame others. "What they should be doing is standing up, accepting they've broken the asylum system, and telling us what they're going to do to actually fix it, not whingeing on about Gary Lineker." What was Wed PMQ'S all about then Keir. oh and the presentation of what they are trying to achieve with clamp down on the boat invasions a waste of 2 days debate in Parliament! FCS join up the dots.
Overpaid pundit I don’t watch the Premiership anyway but to my mind the BBC could save the licence payers a few quid and drop him and Wright and Shearer and would probably replace them with a trans woman That would probably please the BBC anyway
Think it might be the perfect time to be rid of Alex Scott, the miserable Shearer and Ian Wright. I'd sack all three.
Hope the BBC stop these pundit's money this week. They're on strike. **** em. 20 minutes of highlights. A delight not to hear Shearer's boring, 'stating the bleeding obvious' tripe. Lineker should be free to air his views. If those who choose to 'walk out' in solidarity then they must take whatever comes their way. I'd sack them. There are 3 very interesting videos on OTIB MOTD thread pp25 of Matt Le Tissier and Ian Wright about sackings and Brian Clough about pundits. It's worth a look.
