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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    The Brexit all credible economic analysis says will damage the economy that has coincided with the worst growth in the G7.
     
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  2. Star of David Bardsley

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    Working class hero.

     
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  3. Staines R's

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    However much we used to send to the EU to go into the pension pots of rich old men……
     
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  4. Goldhawk-Road

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    Again, in the earlier years we were the best. You're being selective to support your weak argument. If France and Germany were powering ahead, you'd have a better case, but they are not.
     
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  5. Stroller

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    You're delusional mate.
     
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  6. Goldhawk-Road

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    Brexit hasn't begun yet, because it's been hit by a worldwide Pandemic, a war in Europe and stratospheric energy prices. But we're no worse off than our European competitors.
     
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    I’ve been called far worse ;)
     
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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    We were the best off the back of being the worst, which was my earlier point when you parroted misleading positive spin.

    The only G7 economy to not have recovered to pre-pandemic levels yet. Anybody’s guess why.
     
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  9. Stroller

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    All reputable economists agree that there has been a significant negative impact to the UK economy from Brexit. Of course there have been other factors, but you're as delusional as Stainesy if you can pretend otherwise.
     
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  10. Staines R's

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    Be nice Strolls
     
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  11. Goldhawk-Road

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    As I say, Brexit hasn't had a chance to get off the ground yet. And there are big economic issues for other countries like Germany. If Brexit was such a disaster, why has your man Starmer done a complete U turn, and now sees Brexit opportunities once we get over the Pandemic backlash, the war in Ukraine and the energy crisis.

    Are you going to vote for him?
     
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  12. Stroller

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    Starmer's disingenuous timidity on Brexit enrages me. **** the Red Wall, say it as it is.

    Sunak knows that we'd all be better off in the Single Market. He told us.
     
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  13. Goldhawk-Road

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    Neither of them will go against Brexit, because they know that Brexit must be given a chance to work. Even the EU have admitted it did its worse to make sure Brexit failed. Everything has been against Brexit since 2020, but still, we are in no worse a position than our European competitors.

    There need to be positive action soon, and that will start with joining CPTPP.
     
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    British business sizes up global trade wins as Malaysia and Chile join Indo-Pacific bloc
    UK business opportunities bolstered as Malaysia and Chile join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP)

    From:
    Department for International Trade and The Rt Hon Greg Hands MP
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    6 February 2023

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    • Malaysia and Chile ratify membership of CPTPP, bolstering the Indo-Pacific trade bloc worth a combined £9 trillion of GDP
    • The UK is working to become the first European member of the bloc this year with negotiations progressing well
    • British businesses can add Malaysia and Chile to the list of countries they could benefit from lower tariffs on exports to now they have joined CPTPP
    Malaysia and Chile have officially joined the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), meaning British businesses will get better access and lower tariffs in the Malaysian and Chilean markets when the UK joins the dynamic trade bloc.

    Malaysia is one of the CPTPP members with which the UK does not currently have a bilateral free trade agreement. The UK and Malaysia both joining CPTPP will greatly increase the UK’s access to the Malaysian market and could boost the £2.9bn worth of exports we currently sell there annually.

    Chile was the first country to sign a trade deal with the UK after we left the EU which secured preferential access to each other’s markets. Chile remains one of the foremost champions of free and open trade in the Pacific region and is keen to deepen our trading relationship, which was already worth £1.5bn in 2021.

    Joining CPTPP will also provide opportunities for collaboration with Chile in areas such as fintech, green finance and cybersecurity, supporting innovation in our financial services sector and helping develop our countries as leaders of financial services.

    The UK is making good progress in negotiating our own accession to CPTPP. UK accession could mean more than 99% of UK exports to member countries become eligible for tariff-free trade.

    Minister of State for Trade Policy Greg Hands said:
    This is great news for UK businesses and global free trade. The Indo-Pacific has some of the most innovative and fast-growing economies in the world and closer ties with markets like Malaysia and Chile will demonstrate how our trade agenda is delivering for the whole of the UK.

    I’ve spent the last few days in the Asia-Pacific region to discuss our accession to CPTPP which will take the bloc from 12% to 15% of global GDP and will mean we are using our independent trading powers to bring a new, strong, persuasive voice to a network committed to free trade.

    Sheffield-based chilli paste manufacturer Mak Tok has been exploring Malaysia as a new potential market and is looking to license the brand and partner with a manufacturer in the country.

    Mak Tok rose to fame after showcasing its Malaysian chilli paste and sauces on Dragon’s Den. The business has been created around traditional Malaysian cuisine and already exports to other CPTPP member countries including New Zealand.

    The Department for International Trade (DIT) has supported Mak Tok on its exporting journey and the benefit of improved market access could mean they see increased opportunities to trade with Malaysia as joint members of CPTPP.

    Mak Tok Founder Will Chew said:
    Malaysia and its neighbouring countries have always been markets Mak Tok has been trying to penetrate. For the past few months, we have been working closely with our dedicated International Trade Advisor and the wider Department for International Trade (DIT) team on a strategy to establish those critical initial contacts in the region.

    Being a part of CPTPP will accelerate our conversations with potential manufacturing and distribution partners, which will generate a new revenue stream for the business, expand our market reach and increase the movement of our products.

    These key metrics will fuel the growth of Mak Tok by attracting new key investors in the Indo-Pacific region to help drive the brand even further.

    Founded in Bath in 1990, the Fine Cheese Co. export a range of traditionally made artisan cheeses from independent producers from across the UK. The product can currently be found in over 600 delicatessens, farm shops and independent retailers across the UK and thirty other nations across the globe, from Chile to Australia.

    Fine Cheese Co. Owner and Director, John Siddall, said:
    Having exported to the country since 2008, The Fine Cheese Co. is excited about the future opportunity of the Chilean market at the nation’s gourmet market expands.

    The most recent round of CPTPP negotiations, held in London in December, made good progress and the UK continues to engage in talks on both a bilateral and collective basis with CPTPP members.

    Joining CPTPP puts Britain at the heart of a dynamic group of countries, as the world economy increasingly centres on the Pacific region. As these economies grow, stronger trade links with these countries are crucial to benefiting from this growth.

    Notes to editors
    • CPTPP is made up of 11 countries in the Asia Pacific and Americas, namely Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam
    • CPTPP had a combined GDP of £9 trillion and was home to over 500 million people in 2021
    • CPTPP membership not only offers significant direct opportunities for UK exports, but it could also act as a gateway to the wider Indo-Pacific region, which is expected to account for the majority (56%) of global economic growth between 2019 and 2050.
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    GammonBollocks 'News' presenters hanging out with known BNP leader. Stay classy.

     
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  17. Staines R's

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    Genuine question…..which one is the known BNP leader ?

    NB…..I read the tweet now and get it. Never heard of the bloke
     
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  18. Goldhawk-Road

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    I haven't heard of him either. Let's hope we learn of lots of others we've never heard of.
     
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  19. Stroller

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    They'll al get a chance to spread their poison on GBeebies.
     
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  20. Goldhawk-Road

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    GBNews has household names. Why would they bother with someone no one knows?
     
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