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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    This was his treble winning team at Barca:

    Bravo
    Dani Alves Mascherano Pique Jordi Alba
    Rakitic Busquets Iniesta
    Messi Suarez Neymar

    I mean, come on. You think this man is going to do well with Davinson Sanchez and Richarlison?
    To my mind, Enrique is just as absurd as appointing Zidane.
     
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  2. KingHotspur

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  3. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    What about howe ? I mean we need an excuse to move on to the higher echelons now he's got us where we need to be.

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  4. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    I get what you’re saying but now we don’t want the best managers at Spurs because the players aren’t good enough for them? And so we’d rather see a manager who hasn’t won anything but used to working with lesser players appointed?
     
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  5. Citizen Kane.

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    My point is we've just been through two managers who have only ever tasted success when in command of vast budgets and outrageously talented squads. Enrique's style of football is much better than Conte or Mourinho, but there is equally little evidence that he has even the slightest inkling of how to oversee a project, take a damaged squad and improve it and develop young talent. We are in urgent need of all these things right now. Enrique's only experience of that came at Roma and Celta Vigo and he hardly shone at either.
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Nope but then they wouldn’t play under him would they?

    I’ve said earlier there’s some players I think would do well under him and that the likes of Sanchez, Dier, Emerson etc would be cast out almost immediately as they wouldn’t fit his philosophy.

    He could likely build around Kane/ new striker, Son, Kulusevski, Bentancur, Bissouma, Porro, Romero and Udogie though. We’d the. need a midfield creator, CB and GK, which is basically what we need now anyway.
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

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    I hate to break it to you, but we've run out of time to build around Kane and Son. Even if both stay. Son may be in permanent decline for all we know. And even if he isn't, both he and Harry have no more than 2-3 years left at the absolute top. And I'd reckon we are further than that from competing for the top prizes. That is what happens when you piss 4 years up the wall making stupid decisions.

    Unless the club is willing to sanction net spends in the hundreds of millions every window (which it won't), the painful reality we'd all best get used to is that Kane and Son won't win more than a minor trophy as Spurs players (one of the domestic cups), which means if we are really clever (which we aren't), we'd be looking for a manager who has a 5 year vision (like Poch or Arteta) and included in that vision is a plan to transition away from reliance on Kane and Son, with an aim to win the league or CL after they've left and/or shifted to bit part players making cameos here and there.

    Those are the only two players we have who come close to the quality Enrique is used to working with. The others you've listed are miles off that standard. And we've run out of time to build around them.
     
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    FFS
     
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  9. SpursDisciple

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    Agreed. I for one am still not over him going to Utd.
     
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  10. PleaseNotPoll

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    Who has improved under Conte?
     
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  11. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Enrique would fit perfectly in as the third of a trio of unsuitable appointments, after Mourinho and Conte.

    His skills and experience are all wrong for this club and its owners. However, he is a big name, who has won silverware with a team of superstars and is currently out of a job, so there's every good chance that he is our preferred choice.

    We can only hope that, if he's offered it, he has the good sense to turn it down and we look for more suitable candidates. If not, once the 'new manager bounce' is over, we'll be back looking at the next chump in less than 2 seasons.
     
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    Tottenham will discuss the merits of both Pochettino and Thomas Tuchel as potential managerial successors to Conte, with whom the club are set to part company. (Guardian)

    Brentford boss Thomas Frank and Fulham's Marco Silva are also on a five-man shortlist to replace Conte at Tottenham. (Independent)
     
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    Marco Silva's crap. He's doing well with Fulham this season, but he's nowhere near good enough.
    He has addressed his biggest weakness during his other PL stints though, to be fair to him.
    His sides always conceded tons from set-pieces and they're not doing that.
    7 is still quite high, but not record setting bad.
     
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  14. Citizen Kane.

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    Absolutely no one. Possibly Royal but only slightly and, it would seem, more thanks to his own personally funded regimen than Conte's influence.

    If anything, Son, Romero, Kulusevski and Bissouma have all regressed under him.
     
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    Hojbjerg is probably the most likely player we can say has improved, as this season has seen his attacking output improve compared to the last couple of seasons, and Davies has definitely improved compared to where he was under the ubermensch

    Arguments can be made for Emerson and Doherty, although those are mainly based on purple patches of form (Emerson;s in recent weeks, Doherty last season prior to Matty Cash taking him out)

    The fact that it's not possible to point to someone who plays in the other half of the pitch does say a lot, though
     
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  16. KingHotspur

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    I don’t particularly rate Silva (reminds me of Roberto Martinez) but surely he should be just as valued as De Zerbi as both overachieving with mediocre sides
     
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    Silva also has a track record of being pants at Hull, Watford and Everton
     
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    I'm reserving judgement on De Zerbi, as I've not seen enough of his sides to judge.
    He's new to the Premier League and he's hit the ground running, but it's early days.
    Looks a good appointment for Brighton and he's one to keep an eye on.
    His record elsewhere is nothing to shout about, but he's still quite young.

    Silva, on the other hand, has had several stints in the Premier League.
    I feel far more comfortable criticising him, as we've seen what he can and can't do over time.
    Relegated with Hull with the worse defensive set-piece record ever.
    Joined Watford and started well, then got tapped up and went to ****.
    Joined Everton and was sacked when they were 18th. Took 18 months off.


    Just not somebody that we should be considering, in my opinion.
     
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  19. KingHotspur

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    I agree that he shouldn’t be an option either but neither should De Zerbi as he’s only been in the league for 5/6 months
     
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