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  1. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    It was end of 2014. S85, it was originally a company car, I wouldn't have taken the risk privately back then. When my old company got bought out and I resigned, I got the opportunity to buy it as it made economic sense. I get around 350km from a 45 minute super charge in summer and have always used this. Apparently battery life maintains longer if you charge domestically.

    I'm in Norway, so have road tolls here, so up until last month, got 90% off those and free parking up to 2018. Now 50% of private cars sold are electric, the government is reducing these benefits as their income is reduced significantly.

    But I'm not a disciple as such, I think newer electric brands do some things better than Tesla - Byd are popular here as good in weather conditions, Hyundai are the most reliable and give the longest warranties and service packages, but now the Tesla Y models are relatively extremely cheap for what you get. I think only Mazda are still significantly investing in petrol motor development, so it will get more difficult in the future for city dwellers who don't have private parking/charging.

    The environmental argument is debatable because of the battery, but obviously have no negative impact on air quality in city centres.
     
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    Ah, Norway. So what you might save on motoring costs you lose many times more when you buy alcohol!
     
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    That last sentence is not strictly true. Apart from the less robust argument about re-suspended dust, due to a combination of factors, measurements during lockdown showed that the reduction in NOx resulted in an increase of ground level ozone, which is arguably more dangerous.

    Khan's ULEV has shown a reduction in the number of ICE vehicles but similar numbers of vehicles overall and the measured concentrations have only changed the same as in non-ULEV areas, so there are other factors at play.
     
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    government is reducing these benefits as their income is reduced significantly. No, never, surely not. Who'd have thought it?

    Meanwhile, in the UK.....

    "Fuel duties are levied on purchases of petrol, diesel and a variety of other fuels. They represent a significant source of revenue for government. In 2022-23, we expect fuel duties to raise £25.0 billion."

    Anybody care to guess how the shortfall is made up come the glorious EV revolution? Though exempt from road duty, this will change in 2025.
     
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  5. Heimdallr

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    Fair enough, I didn't get it for environmental reasons so won't claim great knowledge - it was purely financial as there were tax subsidies at the time. I also have an Isuzu pick up, so any environmental benefit is offset, plus some.

    But the tide has changed completely, petrol stations are closing down and many old school mechanics, the car mechanics of the future will essentially be parts orderers.
     
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  6. Heimdallr

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    I was in London in autumn and the price differences of everything were no where near as significant as in the past .. weak kronor and UK inflation has han an effect
     
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    Did you scrap the Isuzu? If not it's running around somewhere in addition to your dodgem, so no offset. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    At present, those wealthy enough to afford an EV are being subsidised by those that aren't.
     
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    And quite possibly the same applies in future. Without a separate metered supply to the charging point at domestic premises, everybody pays. But the real winners will be those hoovering up miles of extension leads and weighing them in at Midgeleys. I am fortunate in that I have a garage and hard standing for installation of a charging point. All of us that live in Hull must wonder how you recharge overnight in many areas.
     
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    I can't find the article now, but I recall a few years back now one Council had a bit of a show for the launch of the new public charging point, only for the assorted dignitaries to turn up at the due time to find travelers sat there plugged in and having their breakfast. <laugh>
     
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    If you have your own garage, you can set up via a smart meter and app, and charge the car when electricity spot price is at its cheapest.

    The nature of the high population and highly concentrated cities in the uk makes EV for all difficult. 'Most' European government aims seem to be to have integrated public transport systems and reduce the reliance of city dwellers on private cars.
     
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    I have just googled Economy 7, it looks like it is being phased out. This was for electric radiators to be heated overnight. The heat dissipated during the day and early evening and time for overcoats and thermals at 8pm. But, yes, I can see how with a smart meter suppliers could drop prices in the early hours of the morning.
     
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    Effing modern life, no vegetables in the shops, no new cars in the showrooms, and today no newspapers in the shops.


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine m.
     
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    Newspapers only containing articles about lack of availability of veggies and cars, as well as heating costs of course.:emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    I visited the Vauxhall dealership last week, the salesman told me there was around a year wait for the new Astra. Since last March he's ordered sixty of them, and only had four actually delivered. When I asked about a test drive he told me they didn't even have a demonstrator car, and the showroom was full of used cars, crazy times.



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    Similar situation over here too. Mate has been waiting over a year since he ordered a new vehicle. It finally arrived but it turned out to be the wrong model ! Japanese vehicle I believe.
     
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    Do you like French cars mate?
     
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    No thanks. :emoticon-0100-smile



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    Nicola Hackney was found with crack which fell from between her legs while being strip searched at a police station .
     
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    Crack in her crack?
     
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