No idea who thinks conte is letting the players down tbh. Conte and the players are letting the fans down as has Levy's footballing decisions. I said it after he sacked Pochettino that his managerial appointments have been poor. JM, Numo and Conte bear this out. Conte was only ever going to be a short term manager...our squad needed a complete overhaul and you do not give that responsibility to Conte. We need to decide a strategy and and act accordingly and I don't trust Levy to do that footballing wise
It may not be the response you like, but it is a crucial and true part of last season's story. They were totally outplaying us last season before Cedric and Holding lost their heads. And even at that stage, top 4 was still in their hands but they went to the Toon and played atrociously. Conte definitely deserves credit for what he achieved last season, but I feel some people massively overhype it to the point of near Stockholm Syndrome, where we are blind to the failings of this season simply because we are so enamoured by finishing in the top 4 last season.
Because our manager pushed and pushed to spend £60m on Richarlison, then promptly didn't play him. That money should have gone on a CB.
we needed both a winger/striker and a CB not one or the other 9th richest club in the world highest ticket prices in European football get on with doing your job right and buy both
Conte wanted Bastoni no question, but he didn't want to come, he is a young Italian who didn't at this stage of his career want to move abroad, fair play to him for that, but if Conte / Paratici can't convince him that it was the right move who is to blame? It would appear that we were given some encouragement that he maybe prepared to consider the move this summer so a a temporary solution Llenglet was bought in and the manager appeared content with that. He is also on record as saying that he likes Dier in the centre of the 3 and wasn't looking particularly for an upgrade in that position last summer.
Has someone told the clown Levy and his followers that the best way to make loadsa money is to build a winning team and bank the top prize money which would dwarf anything else he makes season by season clown
In fairness, I think you're doing Conte a slight disservice here, as the job he did from November 2021 - May 2022 was impressive and he looked to have improved you. I wrote a post on here a couple months back that showed (from his arrival to the end of the 21/22 season) the underlying metrics to your performances being substantially better compared to Jose and Nuno (in terms of distance covered, clean sheets, goals conceded, goals scored, ball recoveries, chances created...). However, this season has been a total calamity and he has to shoulder a majority of the blame for the reasons you outlined in your post to KingHotspur. And whilst I did caveat my post by claiming Conte does have a tendency to behave like this, and that things can unravel very fast when results aren't going his way, I will admit this is way worse than I'd ever imagined. The one saving grace now is that he is playing once a week and won't have any cup games to 'distract' him - which seems to suit him better. Although even that isn't assured to rescue him when he's flirting with a move back to Italy and making disparaging comments like he was last night.
We got top 4 cos arsenal threw it away... 4 points clear with 3 games to go...they gave it to us with a car crash of a performance at WHL and a horror show at St James' Park. Conte chose to prioritise spending £60m on Richarlison rather than sort the defence and chose to play Sessegnon and Royal while leaving Spence in no man's land. He continually blames players for his tactics...last night was a joke...I expected it but to sit there watching that tedious **** after coughing up £50 was unacceptable. I have no idea how Conte is not as responsible as the players and levy
He’s not going to say he doesn’t like one of his players…I don’t read much into what they say…I always give life the ‘eyeball’ test. Bastoni isn’t the only CB in the world…plenty good ones about e.g should have made an offer Gvardiol and his club can’t refuse…should have spent Spence money wisely instead of taking out of the kitty to make his own ‘club’ signings
They’re all responsible I don’t care if Conte goes but I’ll see you back here in 12/18 months and we can have the same convo regarding our next manager
I am not disagreeing, but Conte a bit like Poch before him likes to have 'his' signing he wanted Bastoni and wasn't fussed about anyone else. Gvardioli I also totally agree though if Leipzig had agreed a price with us Chelsea would have gazumped us.
Leipzig turned down Chelsea's ridiculous bids for him. They weren't going to sell him. They're claiming that they won't sell him this summer either, but he'll probably go for silly money.
I'm not going to defend Conte. He was the wrong appointment for the club...but having appointed yet another defensive manager, who plays wing backs but not youngsters, to fail to recruit a better CB than Lenglet and a RWB who was likely to make the first XI on a regular basis, was ****ing nuts. He's been tactically inflexible and personally sulky. That's no ****ing use to us...but it's no surprise to anyone either. He's high maintenance and we're not that kind of club. He was a panicked appointment, to stop the booing. Levy and Conte rejected each other in June of 2021...and history shows that it should have stayed that way. Two inflexible people like Levy and Conte can't work together for too long, even with Paratici as a buffer. Conte's failed badly but it was on the cards from the start...and that's on Levy.
and you know Levy is going to pull the wool again to shut up the boo boys by appointing a fans favourite or handing out a new contract to a fans favourite…he does it all the time. its like a card trick since 2023 began we have heard zero about the football from the club but plenty about Hotels and Beyoncé ****ing madness
I don't think that this is what's going on. Mason and Kane are wondering why we're subbing on a centre-half when we need a goal. I think it's a debatable decision, but not an outright ****ty one.
Arsenal crumbled yes but Spurs did well to overhaul them and get 4th I don’t have Stockholm syndrome regarding Conte and he’s made mistakes but imo he’s not the issue and it’s too simple to say get him gone and bring in someone else and performances will improve.
If Poch comes back I expect an upsurge in performances…front foot football…he’s magic you know getting blasted from the stands…new manager bounce and a lot of please log in to view this image still…I’ll see you here in a few years to discuss his replacement due to disgruntlement resulting from the shabby runnings of Tottenham Hotspur Sports and Entertainment Complex
Hindsight as most of our comments are, reminds me of when we lost 3 times to Chelsea in a couple of weeks. I can remember being slightly concerned at how Conte made an issue of the fact we were not at Chelsea's level and could not expect to beat them. OK, I thought he is a top manager and must know what he is doing. Following the events of this season I have put it down to losing 3 close friends that has taken Conte's eye from the ball. Even up to last night I was of the opinion that we should not get shot of yet another manager. By half time yesterday I was changing my mind. We had lost the first leg 1 - 0, in terms of Euro football in a match over 2 legs with the second leg at home that was not a bad result but It did require us to win the home leg by two goals. That means we had to be set up in a positive way, so out we come and spend the first 45 minutes being very carefull not to stretch our play, apparently keeping defence at the front of our minds. As a result we create nothing and AC Milan are allowed to settle and grow in confidence and to help them our fans are basically bored into silence. I still thought Milan must be better than they look and are stifling our attempts to attack. The second half showed how wrong that assessment was. In the second half we attack and Milan use their best Italian methods to defend and to waste time. Conte would be familiar with all this because he is after all an Italian himself. Then in his post match comments Conte tells us that Milan are a bigger team than us and we can't expect to beat them and in 13 months we can't expect to be beating anyone in effect. Sounds to me like we need a manager who has some faith in us as a club. We need a manager who can use all the attacking skills our squad have and a manager who can get the players to move the ball at speed and stop resembling chess pieces on grass. Management that requires motivation, and that is a key element in football management, will not work IMO if you tell people thay are just not good enough. What you are doing is letting them off a mental hook. Sheffield United with players 'not good enough' manged to beat Spurs as have teams throughout football. Teams have always beaten so called superior teams by working harder and wanting it more. We just beat City! a team far better that Milan. Conti is the weak link here IMO, he's not used to working at this level. You might expect something similar if you put Guardiola in charge of Spurs or Mourinho of course. They can't do what managers like Redknapp, Pullis or Dyche can do. We need a manager who understands where we really are in the football hirarchy and can get us to perform above ourselves.
So, I’m not in the “blame any one in particular” camp. I find myself agreeing with everyone on here for different reasons. For me, it boils down to 3 key areas (levy, conte, players) of which none have any synergy and for a variety of reasons have resulted in the disaster we’re seeing before us. but it’s pretty tragic when you see something like this summed up by Matt Law. What a waste of time and money the last few years has been.
