On the academy : no, The operating capability of the academy (finances, facilities) is good,. The pipeline delivery flow (long-serving senior players) in terms of quality and rate is near zero of late.
In terms of the academy, the best way to look at it is look at the players from each class who have come through 2010-12: Harry Kane, Ryan Mason, Andros Townsend, Steven Caulker, Jake Livermore, Tom Carroll 2012-14: Harry Winks, Nabil Bentaleb, Josh Onomah 2014-16: Kyle Walker-Peters 2016-18: Oliver Skipp, Japhet Tanganga 2018-20: I'll get back to you on this one The fact that four year gap between 2014-18 has effectively seen Skippy get established, while Tanganga has stagnated on the bench and KWP was horrifically wasted really is an issue, and that;s before looking at the players who bounced in that period
JM is, was and always will be full of ****e. He says lots of contradictory things. He was completely unsuitable for us ... everywhere he was successful he was given a lot of money ... we were never going to do that so it was stupid to higher him. Conte has been appalling in cup competitions with us and tbh we are only 4th cos other team have been worse than us so far. Us staying 4th seems a remote and fanciful dream.
I thought that something like 100 matches was enough to be significant and AVB had more than that but I may be misremembering.
1. AVB lasted 4/3 of a season 2. The only Spurs managers in recent times whose win ratios are stattstically significant + comparable with each other are BMJ/Arry/Pochettino.
So .... Pochettino back, IF he contractually accepts that : 1. DoF is king on signings (although he will have input) 2. there will have to be "equality of outcome" decrees on getting academy products more integrated into the senior squad (no more KWP-esque treatments etc) What say you ??
On-pitch matters that I will be dogmatic on : 1. The starting XI captain has be either a defender or MF. I don't care if that upsets more senior players who do not match. 2. I want the team to adopt the rugby approach to the ref. At most two players in front of the ref : the captain, and (where necessary) the team-mate involved. Non such players harassing/swarming the match officials should be deemed a breach of club discipline and a fine arises (which is donated to charitable causes)
Statistical significance is a function of a few things - not least the population being targeted - so for example political opinion polls would need a higher number than a single clubs manager number to be significant. Given that in the last 60 years or so not that many managers have greatly exceeded AVB matches it is reasonable to include his statistics in my opinion. I think if a manager had only a handful of games like most Watford managers in the last ten years it is less significant. AVB's record stands comparison with many of the "top" Spurs managers win records. However the whole concept of win record is a bit naff as it is wins in key games that are most crucial for a club.
Still a no from me. He was mouthing off about joining Real Madrid whilst a Spurs manager. Unforgivable.
That is a good one (and by definition should mean that no previous Spurs manager can be considered for anything other than a caretaker role) . I was also pondering the dogma dimension in a similar vein, Specifically that no manager with an obvious dogmatic devotion to one "system" should ever be considered. I do note that there are counter-examples (Klopp at the Poool for example) . but are they few and far between.
I did misremember, but if it is true that AVB's 54 matches is not statistically significant it proves that a full league season is nowhere near long enough to determine which is the best team.
I would say that one full season is not enough to state how good a manager is. Ranieri had his zenith in 2015-16, but his PL prowess other than that is not of note. Klopp and the Poool offer a different view. They may have only won the PL and CL once, but their PL baseline is high, and they have been in the thick of it (PL contenders, CL finalists etc) a lot.
There are one or two I'd be more open to coming in than him, especially as I've often maintained that I'd only want him back once his old players have all gone but if the decision is Conte or Poch, I'm going with the latter. I think we're in need of a head coach and a progressive one at that, more so than a pragmatic manager.
Thought I'd add to this rather than derail the match day thread. As I left the Milan game I said to my mate that I'd be amazed if Conte was still our manager for the forest game. Our performance in a must win game was dire. Their keeper had one save to make ... in the 94th minute. We took of Kulusevski and put Sanchez on when we were down to 10 men with only 8 minutes left. We have since wasted two of our remaining 12 games by allowing a manager who does not rate the players (ones HE chooses week in week out), plays uber defensive, **** to watch football that is failing to win very winnable games and clearly has no interest in staying. The only solution is for Conte to go now. Just pay him off the rest of his contract...it's only 3 months. If there's some clause, suspend him for publicly bad mouthing the club and place him on gardening leave til his contract is up. Get our first choice of manager in...now... so he can use the rest of the season assessing the squad, decide what areas he wants strengthened and pick his transfer targets accordingly. Many of us said the same in February 2020 after the EL debacle but instead we wasted another 2 months, then sacked JM 6 days before a cup final to distract from the clubs moronic decision to join the ESL and then wasted a further 10 weeks screwing up getting a manager because we were too incompetent to put a plan together in February when it was obvious JM had to go. We look odds on to repeat that stupidity. Mainly (imo) because Levy continues to make the same mistakes when choosing and replacing managers. He sacked bloke in a coat just before a semi final v Arsenal and employed Hoddle. There was no rush to change managers and Hoddle was a very risky choice as his man management skills were notoriously problematic. He then employed Pleat (who had a history of not getting on with Hoddle and viserversa) and the problems between them led to various public spats. He sacked Hoddle in September after just 6 games...why didn't he get rid at the end of the previous season as many fans thought needed to happen (I say this cos this ain't hindsight). This lack of a clear strategy led to us having a caretaker manager for the rest of a very very depressing season. I have no idea what to say about appointing a manager (santini) who did not trust his DoF (Arnesen) which led to signings not being played. Jol was an Arnesen choice and was a success. The treatment of him by Comolli (excuse spelling) ... appointed by Levy ... was a complete joke. His sacking was a total disgrace as was Ramos' reign. It took Redknapp's appointment in 2008 to undo the comolli/Ramos car crash. I kind of understood Redknapp's sacking due him refusing to sign a contract when he thought he'd get the England job and then demanding a new one on live TV when he didn't get it while Levy was at his mother's funeral. But getting AVB was always going to be a car crash. Pochettino was a great signing but to give him £150m in the summer an then sack him in October was stupid. There were reasons to consider replacing him (terrible league form from mid Jan - May 2019 and playing out of form players week in week out while ignoring others) but to do it then made no sense. Not even bothering with JM. Everything that happened was beyond predictable. There is nothing positive to say about the process followed that led to Nuno. And yet we again appear to be floundering around in the dark rather than having a strategy. Next season will be decided by what happens now imo and with Levy making football decisions I have no optimism in a good decision happening
