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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Every lowlife scratter up in court would recognise that description ...

    ... people who believe rules and decency are only for suckers and they don't have to comply.

    When they're caught out their indignance goes through the roof and they just lie to cover up previous lies.

    I class them and Johnson is the same bracket.
     
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  2. DH4

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    The difference between Johnson and the lowlife scratters though is they might be penniless and doing what they are doing to feed themselves. Johnson's dishonesty is for £800 a roll wallpaper, Caribbean Holidays, and to keep expensive women and the offspring he carelessly scatters. He is already a rich man but will always want more. Both are wrong, but it is need v greed.
     
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  3. The Norton Cat

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    Yep, there are people from all walks of life who think that the normal rules of civilised society don't apply to them. It's something that I think is increasing in society and the attitude of "its my right to do exactly what I want" can be seen in even the most minor interactions. Excusing this kind of behaviour, in no matter what circumstances it occurs, makes society worse for all of us.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

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    Absolutely spot on mate.

    My standard response to people is,

    "You may know your rights but you definitely don't seem to know your responsibilities."

    Sadly Boris Johnson set the tone for his colleagues and, inadvertently, some of the public. When the PM is shagging around, always on the piss and breaking whatever rules that don't suit it's no surprise other people think it's fine.

    I don't expect politicians or Sunderland players to really care about us or be totally decent people ...

    ... I just want them to make a decent attempt at pretending.
     
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  5. Sunderpitt

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  6. The Norton Cat

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    That's pretty much my response too.

    Decency and consideration goes a long way. When people in the public eye don't behave with those things, the general public start to think its the way to be.
     
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    Though those people likely don’t know any rights , they only know to automatically use this “ go to” phrase to deflect any challenge to them.
     
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  8. Blond Bombshell

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    I would add morales, The Liar is certainly lacking in that area and as you say, when the media report on his way of life, some people follow his example to the detriment of society.
     
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  9. The Norton Cat

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    It's an attitude that's been fed to us through the media, I feel. Arrogance and selfishness/self-promotion has been shown as a virtue on shows like The Apprentice, Love Island, and other reality things, and through through the way that certain 'celebrities' present themselves. And that's coupled with this fashion for viewing any kind of 'authority' as an oppressor.
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    Thankfully I doubt many young people admire him.

    His greatest admirers seem to be middle aged men who'd love to be like him but are in boring jobs or boring marriages with boring lives ...

    ... they'd love to be Boris out there with no thoughts for the job, their income or what anyone says.
     
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  11. The Exile II

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    Lineker should be in bother again, but of course he isn't.

    As usual, one side can say things that would see anyone from the other side sacked immediately.
     
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    Why? Lineker didn't come out with an anti-Tory rant on MoTD.

    He was using his personal Twitter account. He's expressing his own views like all of us can. So what?
     
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    Comparing a government to Nazis as an employee of the BBC blows a hole in their impartiality principle.

    I think the best way to judge these things is switching it round with someone seen to be on the other side saying something similar. If, say, Piers Morgan compares Labour to the Nazis on Twitter.
     
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    Apparently because he is a sports presenter he doesnt have to abide by tbe BBC rules on political impartiality. (Might be worth fact checking that <laugh>). And the fact they pay him £6m a year probably makes him think he can act as he sees fit.
     
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    What tends to happen with these people who believe they're bulletproof is eventually they get so extreme in their public views they become toxic to any employer with a reputation worth worrying about.
     
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    Lineker salary BBC £1.35M
     
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    Shows what I know. I thought he signed £6m or so last summer. Mind you, £1.35m for a day a week isnt bad is it...
     
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  18. Sunderpitt

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    As a freelancer he does work for other companies? So his annual earnings may be £6M
     
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    While I don't disagree with Gary Lineker that the immigration policy is wrong, his comments were both factually incorrect and disproportionate. It was divisive way of stating things and is both a symptom of and fuels the increasing polarisation of political discourse that we're seeing.

    As someone in the public eye, he has to understand that his tweets are seen by a large number of people, many of whom will be influenced by him. Its morally wrong to misrepresent, to spread lies, to propagate inaccurate comparisons.
     
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    Especially those in government, PMs say, should not tell lies/make stuff up , even more so when speaking in parliament?
     
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