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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v AC Milan

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Feb 13, 2023.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    He also said this, apparently:
    "We can't be set up like this one goal down in the 2nd half. Way too passive, got to attack with more people (...) This season has been ****"

    I can't argue with that.
     
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    He's always like that in post-match interviews. A lot of managers are. I ****ing hate it.
    Blame everyone else, throw the players and club under a bus and pass the buck.
    Awful, awful management.
     
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  3. KingHotspur

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    Kane could dig out Conte and he’d be within his rights to. Kane wouldn’t though as he’s a professional

    Richarlison on the other hand should shut his big mouth and actually try to score a PL goal before the season ends before he tries to attack the manager.
     
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    I did tell you that you'd learn to admire my work.

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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    How'd it work out for you in your cup final?
     
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  6. Toonitus

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    ^^^^^^

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  7. Toonitus

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    Let's all just hope Everton get relegated now gentlemen
     
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  8. remembercolinlee

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    To be honest Richarlison has done NOTHING to justify us spending £60m on him.
    Awful signing and it's all on Conte.

    Mouthing off after his performance as a sub tonight is a bit rich tbh.

    Tbh I am so used to watching tedious, turgid football since 2020 that I ain't surprised anymore.

    We had a 2 month spell under JM from late Sept to late November 2020 and a 2 month spell from late March until May 2022 under Conte where we were good to watch...in 3 and a half years.

    And the man favourite to take over gave us **** football from February 2019 until October 2019 bar the odd game and the CL run.

    We have no identity of clear football philosophy as a club and until that is rectified then this dross will continue to happen.

    We need a manager who will get rid of Dier, Sanchez, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Sessegnon, Forster, Richarlison, Perisic, Tanganga, Royal, Winks and Moura AND have to replace Kane.

    That's a 4 window job at least imho.
    That lot cost a total of £275m roughly...Perisic and Forster were free transfers and kane, Tanganga and Winks came through the academy and Dier only cost £5m. The other 7 cost around £270m.

    Let that sink in for a minute or two.

    We'd be lucky to get £50m back for them.

    We're in a real bad place tbh
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Yeah but that means we definitely won’t be able to return Richarlison to them so you’ll just have to buy him.
     
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  10. Toonitus

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    They're after Che Adams.

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  11. Citizen Kane.

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    There is a huge amount of work to do, no doubt. But I do see parallels between us now and where we were before Poch took over, the exception being Harry Kane's personal brilliance.

    Then too, our squad was littered from top to bottom with overpaid, overhyped bilge many of whom had stinking attitudes and piss poor mentality. Right now, we probably need to get rid of around 10 senior players. Back then, Gomes, Chiriches, Paulinho, Soldado, Adebayor, Naughton, Holtby and Kaboul all needed to be moved on from the club. Similar number of players.

    The other similarity is the crop of youngsters we have coming through, which hasn't really been the case since that 'class of '14' that included Rose, Kane, Mason, Townsend and Eriksen as a young core of the squad.

    I'm intrigued to see what a progressive coach can do with the likes of Kulusevski, Sarr, Skipp, Udogie, Spence and Gil. And I'm pretty sure a lot of coaches out there would relish the chance to work with that group, too. It's a question of finding the right fit.
     
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  12. The Huddlefro

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    There are many parallels for sure. I wouldn’t say our current group have an awful attitude, I think they’re just not being coached in a way that’s getting the best out of them. A lot of the negativity is down to a lack of ambition in how the team is being set up. The main problems we have are

    Leadership. Amongst the regular starters we have the captains of South Korea, France, and England, all of whom have led their countries to relative (or ultimate) success during their tenures. You also have Hojbjerg who captained his previous club. And yet somehow in amongst that, and the plethora of other players who have captained club and country as hoc at times, Eric Dier is seemingly the most effective leader we have, most of the time. How is that?

    Similarity. In the midfield, nearly all our players do the same things. Too many of our players can only excel in specific roles. We don’t have the flexibility to change games on the fly, even if we had a coach with a notable desire to do that.

    Outright quality. We have very few players who can currently be trusted to execute reliably. Kane is the only one. Sonny has always been streaky and is on a horrible patch, for example. Too many others are mostly reliable but prone to utter madness at times, Dier and Romero spring to mind. Even the steady eddies, like Ben Davies, are just that. Mostly reliable but not reliable to do the right thing in the final 3rd.

    Ultimately I think it’s just gotten stale. We’ve been relying on the Kane/Son combination since Poch left and the team fell apart and that’s not working anymore. There doesn’t appear to be an identifiable plan to bring others into the games aside from Kulu doing something off the cuff or Perisic doing something at a set piece. We need a complete reset and that will take a few windows to achieve, and it’ll be painful in the making.
     
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  13. Treble

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    Conte has to go but he can't go now. You still have to play for top 4.

    Not just for the CL but the players and manager you want to attract.

    I suppose the question is, if Conte knows he's leaving will he bust a gut to get you top 4 like he did before. Fck knows but I can't see an alternative with 13/14 games to go.
     
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    Tottenham are doing well they are just not really a big club...
     
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    It’s a sad state of affairs when you want the manager gone but also know that there’s a massive chance, that, based on the strategy you mention, we could end up with Nuno part deux .
     
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    We're ****ed, aren't we? <doh>
     
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  18. Toonitus

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    No you'll finish top 4 again mate

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  19. Alfie Conn

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    I think that will be the last time we see Kane play for us in Europe, he will be off in the summer and who would blame him
    Having said that, when has kane ever stood out in a big game for us , hardcto recall any tbh
     
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