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Kuszczak angry at Ferguson's petty loan block

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  1. Whiteyorkist

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    http://www.doncaster.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=261571
     
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  2. Swarbs

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    "Manchester United goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak could be on his way to the Keepmoat Stadium according to the Polish international goalkeeper."

    The more I look at it the more it looks like there's nothing to this story other than Kusczak having a good old whinge again. **** me, if he spent as much time training as he did whinging he probably wouldn't be fourth choice for us now.
     
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    Sorry but my laptop is dyslectic!
     
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  4. Constcrepe

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    Correct Swarbs. All this link does is regurgitate the complaining of Kusczak. There is nothing at the moment to suggest this is true other than its just him complaining and moaning. I love the sad ABU's all using his moans as 100% proof of the evil dastardly plans of SAF to stop Leeds Utd from getting our 4th choice keeper <laugh>! He knew the situation back in 2008 when he signed a new extension but money talks. Pathetic.
     
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  5. Simon21-LUFC

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    What is there to suggest it isn't true? All it would take to disprove this is one small quote from Ferguson, but so far there's been nothing.
     
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  6. Constcrepe

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    What you are saying and lets be honest, is merely being driven along by your hatred of SAF and Man Utd; is that Kusczak's comments must be true because they have not yet been proven false. In that case Leeds Utd are to go bust on the 25th June 2012. It hasn't happened yet but what is there to suggest it isn't true?
     
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  7. Simon21-LUFC

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    You claiming something will happen is completely different to a Man Utd player saying something about the Man Utd manager. If what Kuzczack is saying isn't true you would expect Ferguson to say something.
     
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  8. Jerel Ifil

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    Constcrepe, go read my two chronological possibilities again. Argue with that, go on.
     
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  9. Constcrepe

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    You and others have claimed that Kuzczack is telling the truth because it hasn't been proven otherwise that he is lying. It is incorrect to think that because someone said something it must be true even though SAF has not stepped forward to say otherwise. Besides even if SAF did issue a statement, you still would not believe him since your support of this pathetic moan is fuelled by your hatred.

    Love the irony of this. Evra claimed Suarez racially abused him yet has no proof and the ABU's shout Evra's lying and where's the evidence? Kuzczack comes off with absolute nonsense, with no one supporting him and the ABU's say thats enough proof! <laugh>
     
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  10. Constcrepe

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    Lets see.

    As I have said before (try reading them) De Gea and Amos both very inexperienced as indeed Anders Lindegaard despite his 4 or 5 caps. De Gea may bottle it, some think Lindegaard isn't ready for the Premier League and of course Amos is young as well. SAF may have wanted to keep Kuszczak for the duration of his contract just to bed in these inexperienced keepers. He is entitled to do that regardless of the feelings of Leeds fans and a keeper who moans and forgets the contract he signed in September 2011.

    Don't flatter yourself with your two scenarios, I don't think SAF has concerned himself too much with Leeds for a very long time. Your second theory is pretty boring and obvious from an ABU.
     
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  11. Simon21-LUFC

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    Yet you still don't explain how the first possibility is somehow more plausible than the second.
     
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    Are you for real! Okay answer me this and be honest of the 4 main keepers at Man Utd who is the most experienced?

    De Gea 20 years old, no international caps and new to the Premier League.

    Lindegaard 27 years old, so far has made only 6 appearances for Utd and has about 4 or 5 caps for Denmark.

    Amos 21 years old, has made 5 appearances for Utd and has no international caps.

    Kuszczak 29 years old, has made 61 appearances for Utd plus around 30 appearances for WBA in English football and has about 10 full caps for Poland.

    Hmmmmmmmm. I wonder who is the most experienced? Could it be plausible that SAF while not wishing to use Kuszczak as a regular keeper, may just may want to hold onto him until his contract expires in case of injuries or god forbid it, his inexperienced keepers cock it up? Or is it more likely and plausible that SAF decided that Kuszczak was a mere pawn in his evil scheming as he turned down their request hoping to make a once rival to Man Utd suffer a little bit more.

    Wise up.
     
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    You have missed one possibility:

    Leeds ask to loan Kusczak and Bates refuses to make any decent contribution towards his wages
    SAF tells Bates where to jump

    Keep it simple ;)
     
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    They cannot do that Swarbs. Means giving up their theories that SAF is the new Blofeld.
     
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  15. Simon21-LUFC

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    And you also refuse to accept you're manager can be a petty, stubborn arse, refusing to talk to the BBC because they exposed his son as a fraud and pulling all of your loan players away from Preston because they sacked his other son.
     
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    David Moyes and Redknapp refused to speak with the BBC why not mention them? Pulling their players away from Preston because Darren was sacked? And so what? Other people may have done the same if they felt their child had been treated wrongly. Not saying it was a right and proper decision, but Utd had every right to recall their players from any club they loaned them out to and to be honest they do not have to explain themselves. Also you again flatter yourself that SAF blocked this move to Leeds as he wished to hurt them. You really are not that significant anymore to Man Utd considering the 25 places between the 2 clubs.

    Or by the way, nicely side stepping the point I made to you about Kusczak being the most experienced Utd keeper. Keep those theories going lads!
     
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  17. bulletinthehead

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    Perhaps united should have played Kusczak in the demolition derby. He couldn't have done any worse than dog **** De Gea!!! Easy!!
     
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  18. Ivor Biggun

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    Actually they accused his son of serious wrongdoing without any actual evidence, SAF demanded either evidence or an apology, when none was given he refused to speak to them.

    ******s (read Leeds fans) making biased and baseless accusations on the internet is one thing. You'd expect more from a publicly funded major corporation.

    Personally I hope its true. I hope when SAF heard about a possible loan move to leeds he laughed in Kuszczak face. Then phoned Ken bates and said:

    "Sure you can loan Kuszczak..... PSYCHE! Now f*k off you scum"
     
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  19. Jerel Ifil

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    That's a possible scenario too. But I think Marko or Simon already mentioned the fact that we've got a lot more money in our coffers (even with tightarse Bates) than Sheff United or Donny. It's unlikely that those two clubs are being favoured because they'd offer a couple more grand a week to Man U. You hardly need it that much anyway, do you? I wouldn't have thought it were very often at all that you accept wage contributions from lower league clubs looking to loan your players. And of course it's in your interests to send TK to a higher-placed club whose high media profile would keep him quiet since it would give him the exposure he needs to get into Polski Euro 2012.

    At least, unlike Constcrepe, you accept the fact that Ferguson would send TK to Donny/SU, but refused to send him to Leeds. There's no reason for that that is footballing or financial in my eyes, just personal.
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    Actually the only one to mention SU / Donny is Kusczak. And he'd hardly be the first player to start dropping names of clubs when trying to get what he wants. Didn't Barton claim that every single Premier League club barring Newcastle wanted to sign him?

    SAF may well have decided not to loan Kusczak to Leeds based on some unspecified personal grudge (tho' the fact he sold you Strachan, Sharpe and Pugh and loaned you Miller implies no such grudge exists). But if that was the case I'd expect there to be at least one other source around to verify this, be it Leeds, SU, Donny or even some random journo with a "source". The fact no one but Kusczak has said anything implies that a large amount of the scenario may just be in his head...
     
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