... is proof the general public is collectively losing its mind. Why is there anger towards the police, why are the five people automatically decreed blameless and why are answers being demanded by anyone other than the families. The people involved in the accident went out on Friday night, the parents didn't report them missing until Saturday night and the car crash was discovered on Sunday. The police can't be expected to launch major search operations every time a bunch of young people go out partying and don't show up for Sunday dinner.
The general public and even more so recently want a say and control in everything. It's all About ME ME ME!
If there was no obvious signs that this vehicle crashed into the wood then how is anyone going to notice it? There was a similar incident on the outskirts of Darlington a few years ago with a similar outcome. Sad as this is we live in a blame culture, surely to end up hidden in a wood suggests excessive speed on behalf of the driver? I dealt with a similar 3 person fatal accident on Teesside back in the 1980s, three young lads having legal use of a dad's car ended up hitting a tree in a wood which on this occasion could be seen from the road. All tragic events and I would suggest all down to driver error.
Similar to a fatality on a Durham roundabout a few years back, car remained hidden for days iirc. I thought the mother of one of the girls had been asked to desist with telephoning the police for updates... maybe this could have been handled a bit more sensitive.
It sometimes seems everything tragedy, these days, has to become a Princess Diana affair ... ... the two key elements are blaming anyone but those involved plus mountains of soggy teddy bears and 'heartfelt messages'. The missing Cheshire woman was the same with total strangers travelling miles to call her 'Nicola', have a few tears and attack the police. We seem to have lost the ability to greive quietly and privately, every death seems to turn into an event. In Cardiff they were cheering the fireworks and whooping at the balloon release. Just like Diana it seems to be out of the question that people needlessly careering around, at high speed in the small hours, might be an irresponsible danger to other people's lives.
I have to disagree mate. There'll be endless situations, like this, when the kids have decided to stay out and turn up sheepishly a day or so later. It's only when it ends badly that you can say it could've been handled better. Five lots of parents and relatives calling the police for updates could block the lines for other people with important issues.
BTW it does puzzle me how a car, with five mobile phones, can't either make a call or be tracked to an approximate location.
This is exactly what I thought. I know my stepson knows exactly where his kids are at any given time!! Bart
To be fair, in this day and age if 5 of them haven’t answered their mobiles, been on Facebook, Twitter or whatever in 24 hours then there is a good chance there could be something wrong. But that doesn’t mean anyone is to blame, the police can only do so much. Let’s see what the investigation brings, but investigations in the first instance should be about learning lessons, not finger pointing and suing the arse off people. Financial penalties won’t stop it happening again, learning from it and improving standards just might
This has always baffled me, how nearly every criminal can’t be caught these days, not many of them are that brainy that they leave there phones at home.
Most criminals, even the petty variety, use untraceable burner phones. It seems none of the parents had any idea where the kids were or what roads to check. That's not a bad thing but it's impossible for the police to check every road in the Cardiff area. And, until the car was found, there was no reason it couldn't be in a car park, garage or outside a house party.
IIRC on a road heading west towards Bishop Auckland, a car went into a wooded centre of a roundabout and was not found for a while. There was very little evidence it had smashed its way through.
Even IF we say police have any fault here , it’s wrong for the likes of Carole Malone using a tv platform this morning to label “all police forces in the country incompetent “ because of just this and a few other incidents.
Good,intelligent post mate. Unfortunately,a sizeable number of our fellow citizens see a tragic event like this as an opportunity to lay blame,often for financial gain, often using grief as a platform.
a friend of mine a good few years ago now, went for a drive with some girls and a mate...young and daft they had had a drink or two and came off the road, luckily all were fine and walked home (set the car on fire and claimed it had been stolen). he was not sure where it happened as it was a back road and dark...we went around all the back roads in the area looking for it and found it completely by accident and shocked him from his drink driving days. there was a very overgrown farm track down into the field, the only way we knew where the car had gone was a couple of snapped branches on the way down, if anything serious had happened they could have been there for quite a while as there was no real indication, he did not skid he just never saw the bend and shot straight into the field. i know it is a tragic outcome in this case but sometimes it is not that easy to find something/someone missing.
Anything that happens in this country on any scale then there's a blame culture attached straight away.
My wife used to track me all the time when I was out driving for the out of hours Doctor's Service as I used to get into some remote places, if she can do it anybody can.
