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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Sheffield United

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Feb 27, 2023.

  1. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Don’t forget the huge salary and bonuses that Daniel Levy gives himself.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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  3. PowerSpurs

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    Strictly he does no such thing. The Board decides his salary, which effectively means Joe Lewis would have the final say if there was a dispute.
     
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  4. PowerSpurs

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    They've grown the club's revenue faster than any club other than Man City and most of the increase has been spent on the team. So, again, you are posting nonsense.
     
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  5. KingHotspur

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    The board that he’s head of?

    You don’t remember when Levy got a £3million bonus for the completion of the stadium?
     
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    Arsenal getting the Leicester breaks and M United getting home draws.Oh I'm bad!
     
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  7. PowerSpurs

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    He doesn't control the Board or the majority of the Shareholder votes. If he delivers on his stretch targets he will get a bonus...what's wrong with that?
    In a perfect world no-one would be paid such sums but since most of the players earn more than him we are far from a perfect world.
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    The following argument could be made :

    1. I doubt Levy really needs that money himself

    2. Would the remuneration paid out, if used on squad matters

    - allowed a wage increase that kept a key player at the club

    - enabled a transfer/wage cost impasse to be resolved for
    a player who acquisition would have a huge ROI on-pitch
     
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  9. PowerSpurs

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    Nobody needs that amount of money. The theory of capitalism is that Levy would have got a better paid job somewhere else of he was going to be paid less at Spurs. If that is true your second bullet point is moot.
    Given the increase in value that Levy has created for Joe Lewis with very little risk taken, the payouts to Levy are not unreasonable.
     
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  10. The RDBD

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    Right.

    So state the Levy remuneration is for increasing the
    value of the asset for the majority shareholder, and
    not because of significantly improving on-pitch matters
    (PL/CL winners etc) .
     
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  11. KingHotspur

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    So you think he should earn more than most of the players?
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    We already balanced that out by several years of playing in such a way that Hugo has little chance of getting that clean sheet bonus in his contract
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    It's been reported that a bunch of their fans assaulted an elderly Spurs fan after the match

    Bunch of ****s
     
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  14. PowerSpurs

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    I have no opinion on how much he should be paid relative to the players. The point I was making was that our society is broken if anyone gets paid £5m a year.
     
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  15. PowerSpurs

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    The two things are related though. The club would be worth more if we won more trophies. But given where ENIC started from it's a major achievement to get the recent league performance.
     
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  16. littleDinosaurLuke

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    There is an elite top six clubs in the PL - of which Spurs are one. Others could enlarge that group. Newcastle obviously, but also Villa, Leeds and Everton, dependent on success on the field.

    Of that top six, Spurs have had the smallest income, although you have recently surpassed Arsenal. That has made it difficult to compete for star players - either recruiting them or retaining them - and paying wages on a par with richer clubs. So recruitment has to be smarter; players who the club can develop and get 5 years or more out of with a resale value at the end.

    Spurs have been qualifying for the CL regularly, which when measured against financial resources, is an overachievement. This has helped attract and retain some very good players. Recruitment has been generally good, save for some notable exceptions. But it may not be the recruitment per se, but how those players are used. Richarlison, for example.

    The trend is upwards, although a few seasons out of the CL could reverse that.

    The problems, as I see them, at present for Spurs are on the field and relate to the selection of the team and management of the players. As good a manager as Conte has been - and has shown still to be intermittently at Spurs- his team selections and tactics seem questionable. There seem to be glaring weaknesses which are ignored. The lack of midfield playmaker or number 10 means the team looks unbalanced. If width comes from the full backs, why are there also two wide forwards, leaving midfield outnumbered against most teams? This causes Kane to drop deep too often. Son plays better closer to Kane and running ahead of him more centrally when he drops deeper and vice versa. They have dovetailed so well creating goals for each other. A record breaking partnership. Why change that? They would benefit from an extra body behind them to bolster midfield - a player who is creative because Hojberg and Bentancur’s strengths are getting up and down the pitch, tackling and competing for the ball. Neither are going to pick defence splitting passes out.

    And there have been a number of times this season when the team have been so passive - outfought, lacking energy and not showing a huge amount of commitment. Sometimes, they have woken up and turned games around in the second half, but not always. Why is this? Utd had a similar issue before ten Hag - covering the fewest km in games, not pressing enough, slow in possession etc. It’s needed a manager who just doesn’t tolerate that, who has brought in two or three players who will do what is required in terms of work rate, to turn the whole team around. Spurs seem to need a similar kick up the backside.
     
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  17. The RDBD

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    Ooh, BBC606 LDL is back !!! :)

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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    Oh bollocks

    No, wait, NO!!!
     
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  19. KingHotspur

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    :bandit:
    LDL has always been a WUM, just a subtle one so as to not upset the majority on here. Now Utd are back (according to the media), he will be like his old self I think <laugh>
     
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  20. The RDBD

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    One League Cup does not a Fergie make.

    However, one League Cup + EL+ PL > 5th while
    Spurs finish top 4 does a Jose make.
     
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