London rivals battle to land Cahill & Cavani as reported in tonights Evening Standard. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-24007552-spurs-and-chelsea-in-fight-over-pound-50m-pair.do Both would enhance each respective teams prospects this year in going some way to ensuring champions league football. Do you believe there is any substance in the story or is this just a international break sensationalist claptrap? Discuss....... Polite chat only please gentlemen
We've been linked with both for quite some time, but I think that both are unrealistic targets. We can't compete financially with the other clubs that are interested in either player and Cavani wouldn't move to be 2nd choice, anyway. A summer move for the Uruguayan might be possible, but I think we'd be priced out of any move, again.
There have been stories saying Cahill is on both Chelsea or City's radar (the latter being, if true, a blatant case of snapping up a player so competitors can't have them) - and I have to say I'm not entirely sold on Cahill, because he hasn't stood out whilst Bolton have floundered in the way that, for example, Samba has for Blackburn. Yes, we need reinforcements at the back with Daws and Gallas recovering - whilst Caulker is on loan at Swansea, injured, and helping the South Wales police with their inquiries. We've been linked to Cavani for a while, although with Napoli in the CL I can't help but think we'll try to bring in Leandro as the big January addition, and secure Cavani for a summer transfer.
Samba is a good big lad but Cahill is quite a bit quicker, given the choice I think Cahill has more legs (npi)
Best to wait and see what sort of proposition both clubs are in Jan, 6/7 weeks is a long time in football.
I like Cavani but I doubt he's going to jump at the chance to play for a club not in the Champions League for just £10k more. If he is available, I'm sure atleast one of the silly money clubs will be pricking up their ears and I doubt we could even afford £35mill in the first place.
Of course we have that sort of money you donut lol, and i'd love Cahill we seriously need him and same with Cavani aswell we need a striker thats actually going to score and Drogs going ACN in january so were going to have to buy someone anyway, we either buy a striker or buy a right-winger, i'd buy both and let torres go
My allegiance is not with chelsea lol Interesting about torres - I got the impression from some of your fans that he is doing well for the team even though he is not scoring a bit like Adebayor is doing for us at the moment?
Ahh sorry mate didn't realie lol, and he was doing very well and not scoring but lately his just gone back to last seasons form and is looking lost, his not getting the service he needs but it's not a excuse because the positions where lampards been scoring lately you have to ask why is torres not getting in them positions, i've backed him all the way and thought he was turning a corner with the 2 assists then 2 goals in 3 games but his just going back to his old self and i'm losing confidence and i just think if he still hasn't picked his game up then avb will get rid in january because it can't carry on, we haven't got a striker thats scoring consistently at the moment
I do think torres is there to stay simply because of the transfer fee involved. I don't know what has happened to him because he was probably one of the best strikers in the world when he first signed for Liverpool Lampard has scored loads of important goals - he will be hard to replace
Thing is AVB didn't buy him so he won't give a ****, shevchenko didn't last long either, and i think injuries took their toll and just as he was coming back to form he joined us then he had to adapt to our system then avb tried to use him in a system more torres-like and i don't think his got the players he needs around him and the main point as to why i think his not our type of player is this - If a liverpool player had a shot capable of becoming a goal instead of shooting 90% of the time they'd pass to torres if he was free, with chelsea it's a different matter, were always going to shoot due to lamps,sturridge, anelka,drogba,malouda there all use to shooting not passing to one player. And tell me about it, no-one will ever fill his boots, people can bang on about xavi and iniesta but just look at lampards goal record, you'd think he was a striker
I really wonder why we need to be forking out large amounts for a midfielder when, not only are we top heavy with them, we already have great youngsters like Mc Eachran who must be hungry to get a regular spot. In truth our recruitment plan must focus on the players we need to deputise for/ succeed from, JT/ Lamps/Malouda/ Cech
I don't want anyone succeeding Malouda his ****ing ****, i'd say the best team we have available atm that will actually be used is this - Cech,Brana,Alex,Terry,Cole,Romeu,Lampard,Ramires/Meireles, Mata,Torres,Sturridge. My ideal team would be - Cech,Brana,Cahill,Terry,Cole,Romeu,Lampard,Josh,Mata,Lalkovic,Sturridge with a strong bench. The thing that used to be our main attribute use to be strength in depth and i just don't see that. Malouda,Kalou,Anelka,Drogba,Meireles/Ramires should be a cracking bench but none of them seem to be a game winner or game changer for us anymore. The squad we have just does not win the champions league or league for me in my eyes, say we got malouda,anelka,drogba,kalou,bosingwa,torres all out and replaced them with cavani, hazard/hulk, cahill, pereira, moutinho,modric and then promoted lalkovic to the first team and played josh reguarly then that would be a champions league or a league winning team. People can say it's too early in the season to be judging but it's the truth and the team we have at the moment just does not even come close to Man Citys or Barcas or Madrids. Just my opinion of what i think we need but i don't even think Mourinho could get the team we have at the moment to the top. The major issue that put us in this position was managers coming and going and making short-term changes not long-term changes. I hope we can get top 4 and then do some major rebuilding at the end of the season which i'm sure we will. Easy to say all this **** but just my opinion of what i think would serve us better.
I can't see us signing either of them in all fairness. Levy won't pay £12m for Cahill in January now he only has 6 months on contract and I don't blame him. Good player but with Ledley keeping fit (touch wood, cross fingers and pray he stays fit), Younes in great form, Gallas back from injury, hopefully Dawson will be back in training in January/ February plus we'll have Bassong and Charlie if we're desperate, I think our centre back options are pretty good and signing another player who'd expect to be first choice will just mean another high earner sitting on the bench and at the moment, I don't think Cahill would get in the team if Younes and Ledley stay fit, they've been immense. In the summer we'll also have Caulker back too after his stint at Swansea and I think he'll be ready to challenge for a squad place and get his chances in the cups. I think Chelsea could do with Cahill more than us, they can also offer a better financial package plus Champions League footy for the second half of the year where as we can only offer Europa (if both teams pass the group stages that is), the odds just favour Chelsea far more. Cavani would probably ask for massive wages which is always a stumbling block for us (not that I'm complaining, being financially stable is far more important to me) and for that reason alone I doubt he'd join though stranger things have happened.
I think the biggest problem with Torres is that if the team is playing badly so is he. He's not the sort of player to drag you through bad spells in the same way say Rooney and Drogba can. So why we are playing **** at the moment so is Torres. But to be fair to the lad, we just don't seem to create enough for him. Mata has helped hence why he has banged in a few more this term but we need to start creating a lot more chances. Can't really go along with the Lampard point though as a midfielder coming from deep is a compeletely different role to a lone striker who is being marked constantly pretty much by 2 defenders....oh and Lampard is probably one of the best goal scoring midfielders ever.
