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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    Probably the Lib Dems assuming they’re still knocking about. It’s a shame Labour can’t admit it but it’s understandable not wanting to upset the hordes of gammonflakes and give the Tories easy meat.
     
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    Or maybe Starmer has at last realised you have either to be in or out of the EU, and being a vassal state is no use to anyone.
     
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  3. Stroller

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    This is what Sunak said this morning....

    If we get this right, if we get this framework implemented, if we get the executive back up and running here, Northern Ireland is in the unbelievably special position – unique position in the entire world, European continent – in having privileged access, not just to the UK home market, which is enormous, the fifth biggest in the world, but also the European Union single market. Nobody else has that. No one. Only you guys. Only here. And that is the prize.


    I can tell you, when I go around the world and talk to businesses, they know. They’re like, ‘That’s interesting, if you guys get this sorted, then we want to invest in Northern Ireland.’

    Because nowhere else does that that exist. That’s like the world’s most exciting economic zone.

    Sounds brilliant doesn't it? The world's most exciting economic zone! Businesses will be flocking to invest in Northern Ireland.

    They won't be interested in GB of course, because it doesn't have access to the single market.
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    A unique and privileged vassal state apparently.
     
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    The EU wouldn't give us any privileges it doesn't give to other non EU states in the SM - NI is a special case
     
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  7. Star of David Bardsley

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    Good thing we hold all the cards.
     
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    I once got a bollocking for drawing tits on the slave girl in my Latin text book. Puella habet ubera. The Police were not called, no local councillors were involved and local Latin speakers didn't have to be placated with the promise of turning a blind eye to their noncing.
     
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  11. Staines R's

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    In my school you would be hard pressed to find a single book that hadn’t been adorned with various knobs, tits and hairy fanny bushes…..no cavemen, Elizabethan ladies or Victorian beggars were offended
     
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    A Labour councillor whips up hatred against these boys, and now they've had death threats.

    Spectator:

    "Another troubling story out of West Yorkshire. Four pupils are reported to have been suspended from Wakefield’s Kettlethorpe High School after a copy of the Quran was scuffed by students on Wednesday. A meeting between the head teacher and ‘community leaders’ was called on Friday, with a West Yorkshire police officer even in attendance. The force subsequently confirmed to the BBC that they were ‘liaising’ with the school about the ‘minor damage’ to the text. The 14-year-old boy in question is claimed to be ‘highly autistic’ – another concerning detail.

    So in light of all of this, Mr S was surprised to see a Labour councillor charging head-first into this tinderbox. Usman Ali released a statement on Friday night in which he claimed that the Quran had been ‘desecrated’ and that ‘all the authorities, namely, the police, the school and the local authority’ should be taking ‘swift and appropriate action to deal with this grave situation’. ‘We all need to work together to make sure that this terrible provocation does not set back community relations for years to come’ he concluded. A Labour councillor suggesting a pupil be criminalised? Are the blasphemy laws now back? That wasn’t one of Sir Keir’s five missions…

    Mr S asked Labour for whether Ali would be condemned for his comments and if the party whip would be withdrawn. The party declined to provide a response to multiple requests – though the tweet of his statement was deleted after The Spectator got in touch last night. Funny that."
     
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    Islamophobia from the likes of Boris Johnson must be punished – and this is how to do it

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    A new index would help the courts assess and punish offences more appropriately. The present system is failing us



    AHouse of Commons report confirms Islamophobia as the most common form of religious hate crime in the UK. Specifically, 42% of all religious hate crimes reported to the police were attacks against Muslims. But genuine efforts to punish Islamophobia and Islamophobic attacks are so weak that statistics on prosecutions and convictions are entirely absent.

    We know nothing about how police deal with complaints of Islamophobia or whether there is a uniform process across all forces. Meanwhile, Islamophobia goes unpunished and grows. This must change.

    The debate about how to punish it has been bogged down by the task of finding a definition. This may be important, but British Muslims cannot wait while scholars debate how to define what has long been an obvious and cruel daily reality. Community-based definitions of Islamophobia based on harsh experience are ignored by a legal landscape that approaches prosecution and conviction through outdated methods and syste
    What is the solution? How do we properly punish Islamophobes? As a lecturer in cultural geography at Oxford University, I have used my research skills to draw up an index of Islamophobia to help police, prosecutors, victims and analysts work out when to take legal action and how to map out the routes towards such action. Importantly, this is the first time an index to measure a hate crime has been proposed and it remains an open project. It is inspired by the way crimes such as domestic violence are processed, placing victim testimony and experience at the heart.

    Published last week, this index of Islamophobia is accompanied by a pathways-to-prosecution form, which helps identify the laws breached and scores each hate crime on the basis of intensity, intention, impact and recklessness.

    How might it work? Let’s look at some flagrant examples of Islamophobia, including Boris Johnson’s infamous comments on burqa-wearing Muslim women as “letterboxes”, the distribution of violence-inducing “Punish a Muslim Day” letters, a headscarf being torn from a Muslim woman, and being called Shamima Begum in the workplace.

    With reference to Johnson’s comments, his then position as foreign secretary contributed to a score of 10 in the recklessness category. A score of 10 was also applied in the impact category, as the comments reportedly orchestrated a 375% rise in Islamophobic attacks against Muslim women in the UK. Intensity and intention were scored at a seven and eight respectively, resulting in a total index score of 35. As a legal case before a judge, the high index score would place squarely at the heart of the prosecution process the human impact of Johnson’s comments, compelling an appropriate sentence.

    If we consider being called Shamima Begum in the workplace – an experience several Muslim women have shared with me – a score of seven was applied across the four sub-categories. An index score of 28 would enable a judge to situate the incident on the scale of severity, thus handing down a lesser but appropriate sentence to, for example, the Johnson case.

    The “Punish a Muslim Day” letters received a higher index score due to the severity of intended physical harm incited, which included “throwing acid in the face of a Muslim”, to “torture a Muslim using electrocution and skinning”, or “butcher a Muslim” and “burn or bomb a mosque”.

    Without hesitation, a score of 10 was applied across the four categories, producing an index score of 40. The pathways-to-prosecution form identified that the Malicious Communications Act, Public Order Act 1986 and Crime and Disorder Act 1998 had been breached. Together with a full capacity index score, police and legal professionals would be guided to prosecute and sentence this case accordingly, and under the aforementioned legal routes.

    My proposed form therefore allows for victims and police professionals to identify the laws that have been breached for any and all cases of Islamophobia. A completed index and pathways to prosecution form would help judges to contextualise the incidents from the experience of the victim.

    But there is more that must be done if the courts are to be equipped to bear down on Islamophobia. The Equality Act 2010 must be updated to criminalise its deliberate deployment in print and media. There should also be a specific offence of Islamophobia in the legal landscape. The Crown Prosecution Service must urgently define “hostility” in order to bring incidents of Islamophobia (and other religious hate crimes) to justice. Reviews are also needed to update the Public Order Act 1986 and the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

    This is not an abstract subject for me. I am one of many British Muslims who has had to fight for fairness and justice within the courts system, in my case an employment tribunal case that continues to this day. Implementing the index will not only carve out the space within the legal structures for British Muslims who experience Islamophobia, it will also provide them with the agency to pursue justice and give judges and prosecutors the clarity to ensure justice. And that is an outcome long overdue.

    Dr Suriyah Bi is a lecturer in cultural geography at the University of Oxford
     
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    Simple solution, just go Vegan then you don't consume any of those products and less cows required in production means less methane, planet earth wins.
     
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