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Thomas Frank & Johan Lange (& Fabio Paratici) Watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Apr 19, 2021.

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  1. Thomas Frank

  2. Andoni Iraola

  3. Simone Inzaghi

  4. Marco Silva

  5. Roberto Di Zerbi

  6. Other (state in comments)

  7. Oliver Glasner

  8. Xavi

  9. Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    ...and Eric Dier just isn't good enough to play a critical role in the side. Chuck in that our WB's have had too limited effect as attackers and some crucial injuries and the whole thing's a mess. If we had 2 or 3 ball playing, press resistant CB's and a couple of top WB's....but we don't.

    We've had square pegs in round holes...and there's a good likelihood that, next season, when we have Udogie and Porro, we'll employ a coach that plays a flat back four.

    The thing's a mess.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Ketchup has no chance of making a comeback
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    "Has worked for Forest since July 2019", according to their site.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Honestly didn't read the article due to the amount of nagging involved, i.e. disable adblock or GTFO
     
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  5. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Seems weird to be appointing a new nutritionist when it’s likely Conte is leaving in 3 months time
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

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    Do you think the best nutrition for the players depends on who the coach is? Surely any new coach would want this expertise.
     
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  7. KingHotspur

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    Usually the manager/head coach brings in his own people though.
     
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  8. PowerSpurs

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    Only a core coaching team...not nutritionists and the like, surely.
    Anyway they shouldn't be allowed to...working with the same people all the time leads to group think.
     
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  9. KingHotspur

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    All the successful managers have their own guys though.

    What if the nutritionist is too strict and the manager doesn’t agree?
     
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  10. Diego

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    Then the manager should be a nutritionist.
     
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  11. PowerSpurs

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    Then you sack the manager for having opinions on matters that he doesn't have qualifications in
     
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  12. KingHotspur

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    Sir Alex, Wenger, Pep, Mourinho, Klopp all had/have says in players diet though.
     
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  13. The RDBD

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    A nutritionist is orthogonal to a coach. As is a fitness specialist.
    So the answer is no.
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    Maybe Conte could take a slightly different approach upon his return?
    He's due back this week, according to Stellini, so I don't expect this to happen.
    Having him take a bit of a back seat to aid his recovery probably wouldn't hurt.
    Maybe just sitting back in the stands during matches, which would give him a better view?
     
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  16. The RDBD

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    A suggestion that Conte :

    1. attempts to instruct at such a micro-level that the
    players cannot execute

    2. does not easily adapt when the military adage
    "no plan survives first contact with the enemy" arises
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    I think the key difference between the last half dozen Conte matches and those Stellini has been in charge for that Conte wants us playing very rigidly, while Stellini encourages a degree of fluidity

    For the most obvious example, look at how Emerson is deployed: against both The Sheikh Mansour Team and Chelsea he was regularly cutting inside in much the same way matt Doherty would, but when Conte is in charge he's welded to the right flank - or for another example, look at how H was dropping deep in those two games under Stellini like he has been doing for the last 3-4 years, and compare that to Conte insisting he play further forward
     
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    Most people who know far more about footie than me tell me that Conte is a world class manager. From this season I find that hard to reconcile that with what I see. Something else I see is the performance of the team seems to be significantly better under his assistant, whose job title suggests he isn't as good as his boss. I tell you I'm confused. But also pragmatic. And that pragmatism leads me to hope that Conte should take a long time to recover from his surgery and not hurry back.
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    Stellini Cam is officially a thing now

     
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  20. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Wrong thread...but whilst I'm here...

    Conte's a successful manager, if he has enough of what he wants...but he burns his way through players and is unwilling to bend very far from his core beliefs. If Paratici goes, I really can't see that it will be in anyone's best interests for him to stay and work for Levy or a new DoF.

    For me, that's a car crash scenario.
     
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