I remember so well in first season back thinking this guy could have us in Europe in a couple of years. Coupled with the youth squad who were meant to be world beaters and the sky seemed to be the limit. What a balls up they mad of it
Cannot fault any of that but what people need to remember as I have tried to say on here before….. Cooper actually one of the first super qualified FIFA coaches, joined the FA as understudy to Southgate who was U21 coach athe time. Southgate spawned the top job but it was Cooper who won the U17s World Cup the first big trophy since 66. Cooper at Forest last season used many of those same kids on loan to win promotion and this season has gone from rank bottom to almost mid table whilst we have languished near the shyte end all season. Cooper would be great at Leeds with this squad but like Fulham who were favs to drop he will keep Forest up
… I think he’s done a brilliant job - doc - last year with a stack of loanees, this year with a completely new team. My point really was that he couldn’t do it playing football this year probably because he doesn’t have the quality of the player to do it in the PL. So, after conceding shed loads of goals early on, they’ve gone to grinding out and winning ugly. Pretty sensible under the circumstances.
It would do my nut in looking at his ugly mug. Would rather get relegated than put up with seeing that.
The annoying thing was, there were obvious answers to ours, we were not left scratching our heads wondering what went wrong. From blind loyalty and an injury hit small squad to picking the wrong replacement, it was a catalogue of errors that we could all see unfolding. Even this week I read we were negotiating with Gracia nearly a week before it was announced and we assumed he would get an immediate permit, the question was asked why did we not apply for it sooner. If he’d took a few training sessions 4 days earlier it might not have made much difference but when you reflect there was an 18 day gap between Jesse going and a new guy coming in it’s not great. Hopefully we’ll stay up and it can be put behind us
Sponsorship - I was just reading how our shirt sponsorship will drop if relegated, the powers that be bragging that it’s worth £6m a year, the largest we’ve ever had. It’s insignificant compared to the likes of Man City and even Liverpools £50m a year but one comparison was Southampton who get £7.5m for their Sportsbet advert. Looking at home attendance, we average 6,000 more per game, how on earth can our board consider £6m offers good value for money, surely we should at least be on par with what Southampton can get
Easy with hindsight risty. Football fans are always looking to cherry pick. If only bielsa didn’t have a small squad, if only his fitness regime that helped make us run harder didn’t lead to more injuries, if only bielsa had canned man marking etc etc. The bielsa thing you have to take the rough with the smooth. They guy liked a small squad, it suited his togetherness principles, he wanted players who could play multiple positions to compensate- real understanding of his system was more important than having a fixed position to him. Fans always want to pick the bits they like, often without recognising that changing something has knock on effects. It’s why we typically have bielsa disciples and bielsa ‘if only’s’. Both views are actually wide of the mark in my opinion. He has a philosophy that has a shelf life in my opinion. Both on the physicality and the psychology of the players. As a club the end of the first summer we all felt we needed to invest. Was the roadblock radz or bielsa? Personally I have no idea. But if it was bielsa you can’t criticise the club for not ‘over-ruling’ a guy who has only been successful because you gave him complete control. As for getting the replacement wrong. Marsch was a highly rated coach in the game, there are countless examples of clubs taking highly rated coaches where it hasn’t worked out.
Agree with the value point - we have greater support and exposure than Southampton, our sponsorship deal should be worth more. As for relegation clause? I’d imagine this is pretty standard. The value to the sponsor equates to the brand exposure… which would drop
I agree when compared to the big guns but surely we are not worth less than Southampton. Isn't advertising on a shirt about views and how many people will see the advert. Look at our fan base and coverage and shirt sales, it's got to be greater than Southampton Milky I agree with relegation, I haven't an issue with that. Then again what is the difference between Championship advertising and Premier league on a shirt
Who was Marsch highly rated by, he was unemployed, I didn't see a queue forming for him One simple question Orta - Hello Jesse can you work with the players we have, are they going to suit your vision? Jesse - No I am going to need at least 8-9 new players as I am not capable of coaching the ones you have to play in the style I adopt
Im watching Sunderland vs Coventry. If we had Gyokeres up top instead of Bamford we'd be much much better. Hope we break the bank for him this summer.
