I'd pick that mic back up if I were you. She's been appointed Civil Service Commissioner which, by definition, is a non-partisan role. The previous holder had held roles under both Conservative and Labour administrations. But, hey, don't let the facts get in the way.
Exactly what I was beginning to think mate, if not I can see him dancing round his bedroom in his underwear with his pet chicken.
Exactly, i got out the vote what i wanted,escape from the unelected,unaccountable Brussels regime, as regards consequences no body knows the consequences after a political vote, and if they do, can they inform me of the consequences of a Labour government in a couple of years time, so I can prepare for the eventualities
I was certain what l was voting for, and simple terms it was in or out and there would be political consequences either way which would take time and healing. I told my wife that whatever the result we must abide by the result and move on.
Same here mate, went to bed early that night for work fully expecting a no vote in the morning, but was pleasantly surprised at the result but I was not punching the air and jumping for joy, I really only got into the Brexit debate when all the shenanigans and deceitful behaviour came to light in the following years, won’t forget it either
It should be easier than it is to know the consequences to be honest. Parties have to tell us what they will do when in power. Otherwise how do we know who to support. The leave campaign had to tell us the benefits. The problem seems to lie in the artistic licence, or the lack of info, parties get away with. The £350m pledge is a case in point. It was a very dubious pledge to say the least, but if you went and listened to experts without a political angle it was clear it was nonsense. I voted remain, and would again, and the leave campaign were culpable in a false narrative that people bought into, in my opinion. I have family who voted based on the claims made. You come across as someone who werent sucked into it, and voted for solid reasons, and I 100% respect that. Delivering Brexit, when you are negotiating from one side of a table, and you have 20+ opponents on the other side always meant any deal would be detrimental to us, in my opinion anyway. As to what will happen 2 years from now when Labour are in power. You are right, nobody knows. We have an early indication I think. Starmer pledged to honour the Labour party policy of scrapping university tuition fees in his leadership campaign. A month ago he has said he will no longer commit, citing the state of the economy. On the one hand I am delighted to hear that, tuition fees need to go up in my opinion but no party will stand on that. On the other it is a signal that their current policies in the public domain may be reversed, or to use a popular media phrase, they will do a u-turn. In essence this leaves us with limited confidence in what it might look like. People who dont change their mind when the evidence requires are largely innefective, so good on Starmer, and slowly but surely he is turning the ship around. Whether he falls into the trap of realising he cant change things so quickly and thus spends 2 years blaming the tories will be interesting. I hope not but it is generally the tactic for new governments. The tories picked up the economic meltdown after the last labour government and 12 years on are still whingeing about it. The reality is it is still an issue but to keep referring to it is poor in my opinion. Blame shifting is a key skill for politicians it seems. I pray the next Labour govt buck the trend, for my kids sake, because as it stands us of an older generation are handing over a **** show of a political system.
I woke up in the morning switched on the tv read the result, and then went back to the bedroom and told our lass we lost as expected, and then thought hold on did I read that right, anyway if it was right I wouldn’t still be whining on like the buggers are now, it’s bloody embarrassing, you lost, suck it up.
As l posted a week or so ago, l really couldn't make up my mine until l left the house to vote. I certainly wouldn't be jumping for joy either way.
The problem with Brexit is the government didn’t have a bloody clue how to do it, I doubt any party would have to be honest. That’s exactly why Cameron disappeared straight after so he wouldn’t have to deal with the pantomime that was about to start.
Cameron must surely taken soundings before and was expecting a different vote result, unfortunately he then had no plan B.
Out of interest mate, why do you think tuition fees need to go up? I'm curious as to what the counter-argument is that I'm missing. From an outside perspective and looking at places such as Newcastle and Liverpool, it seems like the universities have taken over the landscape of these cities in the last decade and have expanded hugely which suggests they have a surplus of cash. There's also the argument that poorer people are now deterred from uni due to the high fees.
Some of the behaviour afterwards was absolutely shameful. A load of middle class handwringers practically demanding that others be stripped of the right to vote.
There are only three things that annoy me about Brexit. How people claim Boris Johnson 'delivered it' without knowing what it all means. How criticising it in any way is seen as an assault on democracy. How the automatic response is 'boo hoo you lost'. Personally I think we all lost but some who voted to leave will defend it to the death, no matter how bad the consequences
