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Match Day Thread Norwich v Hull City

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Feb 12, 2023.

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City win?

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  1. Donatella Anybody

    Donatella Anybody Well-Known Member

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    Bolloox mid table Finnish get rid of dead wood and strengthen we’re it’s needed and go for it next season big time
     
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  2. Charon

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    Everyone knows we faff at the back so press hard and we make mistakes - Greaves stops too many times when we are pushing forward then turns and plays back, under hitting and putting other players / keeper under pressure - personally I would bring Elder back - three clean sheets in last three games when Christie, Jones, McLoughlin and Elder start should have been the same start today - our starting midfield couldn't hack it - there was no one strong enough to boss it - not sure we have that person really but Slater, Woods and Seri and Longman are too lightweight - and Tetteh and Oscar were lost without any service - poor team performance and not Rosies best game tactically - we need to stop messing at the back when we are getting pressed like that and we need to find a strong leader who will drive the team- Greaves is nowhere near a leader and neither is Coyle - Rosie needs to find that person and quick, whether it's Christie or whoever - what's clear is we're a long way off the play offs
     
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  3. Baldrick's Cunning Plan

    Baldrick's Cunning Plan Well-Known Member

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    I really feel sorry for the fans who took time off work to go to Norwich. 1 shot on target, not much better last Saturday. It's always difficult to score goals when you spend 90% of the game in your own half. What happened to the promised entertaining football? Less of the talk, something needs to change soon before things improve.
     
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  4. HCAFCHangout

    HCAFCHangout Well-Known Member

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    Last two games the teams have put two up front matching us man for man in a really high press and we haven't answered it. Good thing is I trust Rosenior to see this and adjust
     
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  5. springtiger

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    Where was he ? Absolutely missing fir the 90 , when he got it he lost it
     
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  6. boltontiger

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    Disappointing all round tonight. Norwich were the better side and played us off the park. Our one bright moment was Greaves goal but it was short lived. Its not the time to panic but to realise that we have a lot to do to be a top 6 side.
     
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  7. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    £100m + worth of talent and the second highest wagebill dictates that if both teams performed to their best today then we were always getting beat.

    In fact there are probably 8 - 10 or so teams that on par have better players than us.

    We need to be more realistic in expectations when coming up against some of these sides, but we can go top 10 this season, which would be a great return.
     
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  8. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Guess we watched different games. He was everywhere, dropping deep to help defend on the left flank, winning the ball up the pitch, drawing fouls and holding the ball well when we had it - which was rarely.

    Just checked scores on Sofascore - which I know doesn't mean everything - but that had him down as one of our highest rated so I'm not imagining it. Had the assist for Greaves, won 6 out of 7 aerial duels and 60% accurate passing.
     
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  9. johnbo

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    Hopefully the manager is learning all the time and will have a good idea on were to strengthen next season. We are certainly in a better place now than we were before he took over. Tonight was really disappointing and I think in both the last two away games we just haven't created enough. Everybody wants to see a team breaking at pace but we are not doing it and got dominated all over the pitch tonight. Still think we need that enforcer in the middle which would then give Seri that space to play is own game. Tonight however it wasn't just the midfield, I thought our forward line was bullied and didn't hold into the ball well enough and the defending wasn't good enough. Loads to work on. One thing I will say is all this passing it about at the back which draws opponents in then are we not supposed to catch other teams out by breaking away quickly. Other teams obviously know how we are going to play so we have to find a way to get around this. Anyway we have just got 7 points from 9 before tonight and despite our poor defeat we have improved a lot but as tonight proved we still have a long way to go. Let's hope for a much improved performance on Saturday and 3 points.
     
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  10. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    A decent 'enforcer' next to Seri could be worth 5-6 league places to this team over a season.
     
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  11. Ron Burguvdy

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    Norwich City manager David Wagner told BBC Radio Norfolk:

    "It's important [to get the home win] but not only to have the first win, I think what counts for me is the manner of the win.

    "I think we can say we were back to our norm, to our strength, to what we have shown in some games before today. From my point of view it was one of our best, maybe the best which we've seen.

    "We've shown that we didn't get affected by being 1-0 down, something we have spoken about that we have to trust and believe in ourselves, that we stick to our principles, and this is what the players have done.

    "And then obviously they scored three wonderful goals, had a lot of further good clear-cut chances, and a lot of box entries, defended very well on the front foot, kept them away from our goal. Overall it was a very good performance."

    Hull City manager Liam Rosenior told BBC Radio Humberside:

    "I'm always unhappy when we lose and I wasn't celebrating the first goal because I felt we started the game shakily. They started the game on the front foot, they really pressed us hard, which we expected and they came on to a really good game.

    "He's a very good manager, they've got very good players at this level, and I think they'll be the first to say they probably expect to be higher up the table than they are.

    "That's no excuse for us. I felt we lost too many battles in terms of holding the ball up front or winning second balls - every single second ball seemed to land for them and they've got a lot of quality and they scored some quality goals today.

    "We didn't really lay a glove on them apart from the first goal."
     
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  12. kingstontiger

    kingstontiger Well-Known Member

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    Big thing for me tonight was trying to play 4 4 2 when we don't have good enough wide players to do it. Seri and Woods overrun in midfield with Doc not there and Slater wide. Either 4 2 3 1 or latterly 4 3 1 2 has been getting us results for a reason.
     
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  13. SydneyTiger14

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    Think it gets difficult trying to fit Tetteh and Oscar in otherwise, but agree should have been a 4-3-1-2 which we'll hopefully see when Pelkas is up to starting. Not sure where Connolly fits in then though.
     
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  14. Mckechnie Orange

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    I actually find it refreshing that in certain situations he'll play 2 up top.

    That said I think in certain situations it should be more of a 4231.

    I honestly think 1 or 2 good bits of summer business could see us challenge but that's not happening this season.

    Top half justifies Acun's investment/transfer policy and top 10 would be a good achievement for this first full year of effective trading under the new regime.

    Lets not get ahead of ourselves in terms of expectations. We're still on course for a very decent season.
     
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  15. kingstontiger

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    On the evidence so far he's one of the 2 strikers ahead of Tetteh. Actually think Tetteh might be better as the 1 in behind Oscar and Connolly. Has Pelkas really done enough to get that role? Not when I've seen him.
     
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  16. Mckechnie Orange

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    *** Edit ***

    See below.
     
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  17. Mckechnie Orange

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    Tetteh has 3 assists so far and it seems like he's barely played.

    Pelkas has 2 goals and an assist in less than 900 minutes (or fewer than 10 games worth) of football also - its not about their quality its about their ability to consistently get minutes for me.

    Either way, we brought Pelkas and Traore in for George like we brought Seri and Woods in for Ritchie and brought in Oscar and Benji for Eaves and Magennis - and despite not really replacing KLP - Connolly/Allaylhyar might want something to say about that. - we're a lot better off now compared to what some describe as profligate, naive and interfering from the owner regarding summer transfer business.
     
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  18. SydneyTiger14

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    I'd actually say on the evidence so far it should be Tetteh and Connolly up top.. Both get far more involved in general play than Oscar.
     
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  19. Mckechnie Orange

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    You're not seeing the running he's doing off the ball. There's a reason Rosie is praising him.

    It's not a criticism of you, just the difference between a camera angle as a viewpoint and being fortunate enough to attend occasionally.
     
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  20. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    I don't feel sorry. Its a privelige to go to a footie match on a Tuesday night and tbf to Norwich they were good.

    We lost. Its part of ****ing supporting city. Why is there a thing nowadays where support is contingent on results?
     
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